Sustanon is swelling up like a golf ball in my thigh

[mikeymonsterdong]

Why is this. i can barely walk. I do 1cc a week and its still killing me

[GauchB]

first thought is SQ injection. What size needle u use? 21g 23g 25g? and length 5/8 3/4 1 inch mo info need son.

[maxumboater]

it could be the propionate

[Raw_Power]

Why is this. i can barely walk. I do 1cc a week and its still killing me

are u cleaning the inj site and the top of the vial before use? don't force the plunger down, let it take its time. alcohol after, then massage site for about thirty seconds. you can put a hot compress on it also. try not to have too much weight on the leg of the side you're naling. throw it on a chair or something. i had that problem when i first used. all this stuff helped me. if it doesn't get better, repost.

raw

[mikeymonsterdong]

23g 1 inch

[MBaraso]

switch injection sites. U might not have been deep enough. What size pin are u using?

[shifty_git]

could be the prop.. it ugl? if so, could be high BA %

[mikeymonsterdong]

What is UGL???

[shifty_git]

underground lab.. rather than pharm grade

[GauchB]

21g 1 inch good. Most like prop but in rare case as i know working in hosp could be infection do you clean site/bottle before each use? Ihave seen it in my 6 years as nurse (yes male nurse hahaahahahaha) people clean the site but not the bottle, think bout it you put that bottle in gym bag or sock draw or where eva it gonna get some type of bact on it and if you happen to be prone to that you may need ab's (antibiotics) nothing big just small 3-4 week dose. Also I have many friends who neva clean inj spot or bottle and do just fine so most like react to prop.

[mikeymonsterdong]

should i continue the sus and what contstitues a UGL. What if i split it up too 125 on monday and 125 thurs with different injection sites. Will it help or have the same reaction.

[Drummerboy]

if you havent used sust before, or are not used to an ingredient, like the oil type or higher BA concentration, it may take a few weeks to get used to. If you have lots of fat use a 1.5' needle. 1" if your kinda lean. Be sterile, and make sure you apply preasure on the injection for a minute or so after to prevent it bleeding out a bit. Use at least 2 differnt injection sites. if site becomes very painful, red, swollen and starts to grow in size, keep an eye on it, it may be infected. Not to worry you, just be attentive. I get that reaction from gear i am not used to. Usually a few weeks to adapt.

[mikeymonsterdong]

Right now i am just doing the thigh. will i have the same reaction in the delt. I have used enanthate 3 years ago in the delts with no pain

[GauchB]

Switch the spots why not ass? You could have same reaction it really depends on how your body deals with the compound.

[mikeymonsterdong]

no ass yet i want to be able to sit

[longhorn814]

sust is known to cause pain for a lot of people..its the prop ester that causes it..you can try cutting it with sterile oil or B-12..or reduce the volume youre injecting..this is just one of the reasons why I dont use sustanon..if youre only doing one cc/wk which I assume is 250mg/cc..you should be injecting more than once a week..try doing 1/2 cc twice a week instead

[Dizz28]

Tips to prevent Test Prop Pain:

1) Slightly heat oil up to around body temp using warm water
2) make sure to injec tin a large muscle group and deep enough IM
3) Massage area very well with firm pressure to distribute the oil as much as possible through the muscle tissue
4)Inject in the AM when you are most active. Muscle contractions can help more evenly spread the oil
5) Cut the Sust with either sterile oil or another AAS you might be using such as Deca/EQ/...whatever

#3 is probably the best way of avoiding Prop pain I've found

[dogman69]

ive gotten sust from mexico every shot killed what ever muscle i shot for i week badly but the stuff worked GREAT

[mikeymonsterdong]

can i do eq and sus in the same syringe. I only have 10cc of sus 250mg

[soccer#3]

yes u can mix

[longhorn814]

mexican sust..doesnt surprise me that it hurts..why not just get a single ester like enanathate?? yes you can do eq and sust in the same syringe too..do you have a cycle planned or are you just injecting stuff just to take stuff??

[mikeymonsterdong]

well i was going to do 250cc for 10 weeks of sus then take a month of and do the eq. I only have 10cc of each and in my second week of sus. any suggestions

[dogman69]

mexican sust..doesnt surprise me that it hurts..why not just get a single ester like enanathate?? yes you can do eq and sust in the same syringe too..do you have a cycle planned or are you just injecting stuff just to take stuff??

yeah bro even with the great gains never gain from mexico

[mikeymonsterdong]

so how should i do the sus mixed with eq once a week till it runs out. also when should i start my pct

[longhorn814]

well i was going to do 250cc for 10 weeks of sus then take a month of and do the eq. I only have 10cc of each and in my second week of sus. any suggestions

thats not a real good plan..you just cant take a month off and start again..do you knwo what PCT is?

typically cycles are laid out like this

1-12 500mg/wk test
1-12 400 mg/wk Eq
14-18 Post cycle therapy

sounds you like need some research, i would hold off on the eq for right now

[AaronJM1984]

need research bro, sustanon should be injected every other day, you can do 250mg a week, but you need to split the doses up. Also rotate injections sites. I believe with sust you should start PCT a week after last shot, not positive on that one though, what are you using for PCT?

[mikeymonsterdong]

PCT being clomid. so no eq and continue the sus

[longhorn814]

sustanon does NOT have to be shot EOD..some people prefer it, but many people get by shooting twice a week and have good results..that information is parroted by a lot of people..i suggest you shoot at least twice a week..if youre only take 1cc/wk..take 1/2cc twice a week..the volume will be smaller and pain should be less..PCT starts 18 days after last shot of sust..how much clomid do you plan on using?

[AaronJM1984]

pretty sure sust should be shot eod, what about the short esters???

[mikeymonsterdong]

I have 2000 mg 300 first day 100 for a week or so then 50 to finish it off

[longhorn814]

pretty sure sust should be shot eod, what about the short esters???

the amount of prop in it is very minimal..will have minimal effects on the results..it might be a better idea to inject EOD, however twice a week will still yield results..too many people parrot the EOD injections about sust as mandatory

[longhorn814]

I have 2000 mg 300 first day 100 for a week or so then 50 to finish it off

no need for 300 the first day..just do 100 mg for two weeks and 50mg until its gone

[mikeymonsterdong]

ok sounds good. So continue sus 1/2cc monday 1/2 cc thurs every week for 8 more weeks then 18 days after start pct. What should i do with the eq i have. 10cc worth 250mg

[longhorn814]

ok sounds good. So continue sus 1/2cc monday 1/2 cc thurs every week for 8 more weeks then 18 days after start pct. What should i do with the eq i have. 10cc worth 250mg

hold onto it and save it for another cycle..you'll probably need more as Eq is very weak and you would need 4-500mg/wk for 12 weeks to really benefit

[mikeymonsterdong]

ok so how long before i can do another cycle. i will do the 500mg enanthate plus 500mg eq for 10-12 weeks. should i break those up to 2 shots a week 1cc of each monday and thurs

[longhorn814]

rule of thumb is time off = time on + PCT!!! If you get blood work done and everything comes back normal, you can start sooner

[Big]

the reason I recommend sust to be shot eod is from personal experience, I've done once a week, twice a week, and eod, and I got less acne from eod. I assume this is due to less fluctuations. Gains were about the same regardless, just less sides.

[mikeymonsterdong]

Blood work should i really do that. What in the world would i tell my doctor

[longhorn814]

Blood work should i really do that. What in the world would i tell my doctor

you dont have to tell him anything..if you tell him, you will probably get a lecture on the subject as most docs are clueless about AAS..but he cant tell you no either..its your body and you want the tests...go thru a separate lab and pay for it yoursellf if you have to.. direct labs dot com is a reputable site..you fill out the tests you want, go to a lab and they take your blood and you wait for the results...

[mikeymonsterdong]

so what am i looking for with the results what should they be testing for