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    New Cycle this spring!

    Hello guys/ladies

    Im new to this forum, a Norwegian bloke, so my english is not that good in writing!

    Im gonna start a new cycle in Mars, and want it to go for about 3 months, maybe more if its ok?!

    age 26

    hight 198 cm

    weight 110 kg

    body fat: Dont know! maybe around 15 - 20

    years working out 10 years

    diet pro/carb/fat Eat 8 meals a day. every 2 hour! dont know how much carbs/pro/fat i get in one day, but i have good progress with the food i eat.

    what are your goals with the cycle. My goal is to reach 120kg, maybe 130 kilos before i hit my 30 burthday. Need to get a little bigger chest compared to the rest of my upper body!

    what aas have you used before I have used a little Anadrol , before i really know what steroids was.
    I used testo, deca and winstrol in one cycle and debol and testo in the last cycle. But i think i was using more than i actually needed!

    Now i was going to start with Dbol , testo and deca, and end it with winstrol. As i said before. i dont know how long its "healty" to keep it going. But i'd like to get at least 3 months in this cycle. could i do it longer?

    Is this way off or too much?
    Dbol 50-60mg a day!
    Test cyp 200 mg three times a week (600mg total)
    Deca 250 mg three times a week (750mg total)

    and how much winstrol shoud i use in the end of the cycle?

    Cheers.
    The Norwegian Viking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    Hello guys/ladies

    Im new to this forum, a Norwegian bloke, so my english is not that good in writing!

    Im gonna start a new cycle in Mars, and want it to go for about 3 months, maybe more if its ok?!

    age 26

    hight 198 cm

    weight 110 kg

    body fat: Dont know! maybe around 15 - 20

    years working out 10 years

    diet pro/carb/fat Eat 8 meals a day. every 2 hour! dont know how much carbs/pro/fat i get in one day, but i have good progress with the food i eat.

    what are your goals with the cycle. My goal is to reach 120kg, maybe 130 kilos before i hit my 30 burthday. Need to get a little bigger chest compared to the rest of my upper body!

    what aas have you used before I have used a little Anadrol , before i really know what steroids was.
    I used testo, deca and winstrol in one cycle and debol and testo in the last cycle. But i think i was using more than i actually needed!

    Now i was going to start with Dbol , testo and deca, and end it with winstrol. As i said before. i dont know how long its "healty" to keep it going. But i'd like to get at least 3 months in this cycle. could i do it longer?

    Is this way off or too much?
    Dbol 50-60mg a day!
    Test cyp 200 mg three times a week (600mg total)
    Deca 250 mg three times a week (750mg total)

    and how much winstrol shoud i use in the end of the cycle?

    Cheers.
    The Norwegian Viking
    i would drop the d-bol to 40mgs and drop the deca to 500mgs because its best to keep the deca dosage less then the test. why do you want to use winny at the end?

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    Welcome to AR....

    Run the dbol wks 1-4 50mg/day
    test cyp wkd 1-12 300mg/e3.5day
    deca wks 1-10 375mg/e.3.5days

    What are you using for your pct?

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    I got deca in 250 mg bottles or what you call it ;-) but there is no problem dropping if that is the best to do!

    Dbol i got in 10's and 25's

    How long can i keep this going before i should do my PCT or what it's called in english?

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    Start your pct 2 wks after your last test injection. Do cycle for 12 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    Hello guys/ladies

    Im new to this forum, a Norwegian bloke, so my english is not that good in writing!

    Im gonna start a new cycle in Mars, and want it to go for about 3 months, maybe more if its ok?!

    age 26

    hight 198 cm

    weight 110 kg

    body fat: Dont know! maybe around 15 - 20

    years working out 10 years

    diet pro/carb/fat Eat 8 meals a day. every 2 hour! dont know how much carbs/pro/fat i get in one day, but i have good progress with the food i eat.

    what are your goals with the cycle. My goal is to reach 120kg, maybe 130 kilos before i hit my 30 burthday. Need to get a little bigger chest compared to the rest of my upper body!

    what aas have you used before I have used a little Anadrol , before i really know what steroids was.
    I used testo, deca and winstrol in one cycle and debol and testo in the last cycle. But i think i was using more than i actually needed!

    Now i was going to start with Dbol , testo and deca, and end it with winstrol. As i said before. i dont know how long its "healty" to keep it going. But i'd like to get at least 3 months in this cycle. could i do it longer?

    Is this way off or too much?
    Dbol 50-60mg a day!
    Test cyp 200 mg three times a week (600mg total)
    Deca 250 mg three times a week (750mg total)

    and how much winstrol shoud i use in the end of the cycle?

    Cheers.
    The Norwegian Viking
    15%-20% is a pretty big spread. At 20 %, I'd say drop the fat before starting an aas cycle. At 15 % I'd say you'd be fine.

    12 week (3 months ) is fine for a long estered Test and Deca cycle. Running the winny with the deca would be kind of counter-productive to me. I would suggest something like this:

    1-4 D-bol 35-50mg/week
    1-12 Test E/C 500mg/week
    1-10 Deca 400mg/week

    What have you planned for your pct (post cycle therapy ?)
    Last edited by Njord; 02-29-2008 at 03:05 PM.

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    Im not using anything for Pct yet! someone have a tip for what i should use?

    I was going to shoot test and deca in the same needle. and i was thinking every monday, Wednesday and Friday

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    i hope this is a 0 too much "1-10 Deca 4000mg/week"

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    If you have deca @ 250mg/ml, I would just run it 500mg/week (Injections twice a week)

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    i can try to post a picture. i dont know how much my fat% is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    your i good shape my man and around 12-14% body fat.

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    bro i would say conservatively you are 11-14% bf are you are good to go.
    Last edited by lex57; 02-29-2008 at 03:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    i hope this is a 0 too much "1-10 Deca 4000mg/week"
    Sorry, yeah. Or if you wanna get really big and strong.....

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    now thats funny..............

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    Yep, body fat is good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    Im not using anything for Pct yet! someone have a tip for what i should use?

    I was going to shoot test and deca in the same needle. and i was thinking every monday, Wednesday and Friday
    With Cyp and Deca, you only need twice week injections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord View Post
    Sorry, yeah. Or if you wanna get really big and strong.....
    Hehe thats the goal, but we talk ALOT of deca there ;-)

    what can happend if i lets see stretch the cycle for 6 months? much more side effects? steroids not that effective?

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    if the deca comes in 250 and the cyp in 200 then do 500mgs of deca and 600mgs of test shot twice a week. also yes you can mix them in the same syringe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord View Post
    With Cyp and Deca, you only need twice week injections.
    Aaaahh god to know! tought you had to take it at least 3 - 4 times a week. Learn something every day mate :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    Hehe thats the goal, but we talk ALOT of deca there ;-)

    what can happend if i lets see stretch the cycle for 6 months? much more side effects? steroids not that effective?
    you will stop seeing gains after around weeks16-20 imo as your recepters will not react to the steroid ..

    16 weeks max i would say for any cycle..except hgh,igf,ect.

    unless hrt which can be run year round or for cruesing betwwen cycles(250mgs every week)

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    So i can take a 12 week cycle, 12 weeks with hrt, and a new 12 cycle again without doing a pct cycle?

    And what is hrt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    Aaaahh god to know! tought you had to take it at least 3 - 4 times a week. Learn something every day mate :-)
    It's all based on the esters attached to the compound you're using. Test E and C is twice a week (some say once a week). Deca Decanoate is one of the longest esters out there, and you could probably go once a week. Better to do twice a week with the test for more stable blood levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    So i can take a 12 week cycle, 12 weeks with hrt, and a new 12 cycle again without doing a pct cycle?

    And what is hrt?
    Are you on hrt?

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    i dont know what hrt stands for? what is it?

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    Hrt is hormone replacement therapy, used for people who have no/low natural testosterone production. Forget about it. Run you cycle, do pct and then take the proper time off to let your own hormones stabilize.

    Nowdenlid, you should get a spanking for bringing this up.

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    Hhehehe.....

    i will do so mate! how long should i stay off before hitting a new cycle than? 12 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord View Post
    Hrt is hormone replacement therapy, used for people who have no/low natural testosterone production. Forget about it. Run you cycle, do pct and then take the proper time off to let your own hormones stabilize.

    Nowdenlid, you should get a spanking for bringing this up.
    ya my bad just giveing him the facts tho bro...

    best to do cycle +pct take time on time off them get bloods done by doc befor next cycle.

    sorry for the hrt thing just dident want him running a six month cycle and thought i would fill him in on all the things he should know..

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    Time on + PCT = Time off

    12 weeks on + 6 weeks pct = 18 weeks off before starting next cycle (after completion of pct)

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    Aaahh Great guys!

    Thanx for helping me out! looking forward to see what i can get out of this cycle. hope to see the 120 kg mark on my weight :-)

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    I've been serching this forum all night and i think im gonna go for Nolvadex and Letrozole for my PCT.

    Should i take both? Only Nolva?

    Yes i need it with a spoon
    Time on + PCT = Time off

    12 weeks on + 6 weeks pct = 18 weeks off before starting next cycle (after completion of pct)

    does this mean i can start my new cycle right after my 6 weeks of Pct? or do i need to wait even longer.

    EDIT: while on my cycle, does it have anything to say where i set the needle? i always used my thigh.

    Thanks
    Last edited by Sydolf; 02-29-2008 at 08:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydolf View Post
    I've been serching this forum all night and i think im gonna go for Nolvadex and Letrozole for my PCT.

    Should i take both? Only Nolva?

    Yes i need it with a spoon
    Time on + PCT = Time off

    12 weeks on + 6 weeks pct = 18 weeks off before starting next cycle (after completion of pct)

    does this mean i can start my new cycle right after my 6 weeks of Pct? or do i need to wait even longer.

    EDIT: while on my cycle, does it have anything to say where i set the needle? i always used my thigh.

    Thanks
    No, it means you wait 12 weeks after you have completed your pct. You should read up in the pct forum for a different pct. I wouldn't really use letro for pct. (you could if you wanted to though)

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    use nolvadex and clomid for PCT not Letrozole !!!!

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    nolva, clomid, and liquidex for PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sitries View Post
    use nolvadex and clomid for PCT not Letrozole!!!!
    i actually tried nolva and letro my last cycle and i loved it. i know people say they get shut down from letro, as far as sex drive but mine was through the roof. i cant explain it but i used like .5 mg letro and 40 mg nolva for 2 weeks then .5 mg letro and 20 mg nolva for 2 weeks. i am not recommending it to anyone but it is what i will use until it does not work out for me.

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    thx guys. Really appreciate your comments.

    Just started my new cycle.

    Someone i know, that work out on my gym has been on roids for over a year! using Dbol after between cycles on 3 months!?

    This sound kinda sick and i wonder what this will do with him.

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