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    Newbie Deca/sust Cycle 18 Years Old

    Deca 400mg/week for 8 weeks
    Sust 500mg/week for 10 weeks
    Split Into 2 Shots One Monday And Another Thursday

    Stats:
    Start Of Cycle
    Weight-167
    Height-5'8
    Bench-185
    Dummbel Curls-40's
    Shoulder Presses-55's

    End Of Week 4 Stats:
    Weight-182
    Bench-245
    Dummbel Curls-55's
    Shoulder Presses-80's

    WORKOUT SCHEDUAL
    MONDAY-CHEST,TRIS
    TUESDAY-BACK,BIES
    WENSDAY-OFF
    THRUSDAY-SHOULDERS,TRAPS
    FRIDAY-LEGS
    SATURDAY-BIES,FOREARMS
    SUNDAY-OFF

    Hey Watsup Guy I'm Currently Doing A Deca/sust Cycle Its The End Of The 4th Week My Diet Is Good Eating Kinda Alot A Day Have Alot Of Protein Shakes Working Out Hard Everyday And My Strength Went Up A Good Amount Gained About 10-15lb But I Really Don't See Those 10-15lbs On Me My Chest Looks Better But My Arms Are Like The Same And Its Not Fat. I Don't Get It So My Question To You GUYS Is When Am I Gonna See SOME NOTICABLE Muscle Gains I Did Alot Of Research For This Cycle And I Understand Deca/sust Take 4-5 Weeks To Kick In So Maybe The Gains Are Gonna Happen Soon?
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    dont expect to get massive off just one first cycle but 10-15 pound isnt bad after 4 weeks u still got another 6 weeks on so good luck and make sure u get a good pct.

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    your 18 so dont do it and there in no need to Type Like This All The Time

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    and sust is shot EOD, please research

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    u said it urself it take 4-5 weeks to kick in not to give you peak gains, patience buddy

    but patience is obiviously something you dont have if you started a cycle at age of 18.........IMO thats stupid, but either way good luck, keep us posted


    WHATS your PCT like?
    and u think ur diet is good but go ahead and post it in the diet forum guranteed someone will find something that you need to change


    Also you said you have ALOT of protein shakes, thats NOT good


    PEACE

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheddaNips View Post
    your 18 so dont do it and there in no need to Type Like This All The Time
    He's on like week 4 bro! too late now, what he needs is advice now, not wait till your older.

    A lot of guys prefer sust eod, but its not mandatory, but most do it that way IMO. You'll never see the results when you look in the mirror bro! Take pics before and after, you'll be shocked. Trust me, you can't seem em urself. Make sure you have a good PCT set up, and in ur next life, wait till ur atleast 21!! LOL

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    why are you typing all weird?
    Last edited by boDAWG; 03-01-2008 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    youre injecting sust twice a week? and sust is suppose to be injected EOD, also why are you Typing Like This?
    eod is not mandatory, everyone recommends it, even me, but its not mandatory, twice a week is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheddaNips View Post
    and sust is shot EOD, please research
    not neccessarily, its not a MUST

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    not neccessarily, its not a MUST
    agreed!

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    best way sus works for me personaly is 250mg monday 250mg friday, then if u wana step it up to 750mg a week throw one in on the wednesday, everybodys body is diff its bout findin wat suits u best but keep on this site theres lots of good advise, good luck and keep us posted

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    Protein shakes are shit, I have them as a treat after my workouts..... So how much real food are you eating? I doubt you needed roids at you age man. What you have gained so far anyway is not bad at all. Up your quality food intake, keep the weights up and get lots of sleep. Drink lots of water too..... and for ****s sake make sure you got a PCT lined up or you loose all your gains for starters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodgerj View Post
    Protein shakes are shit, I have them as a treat after my workouts..... So how much real food are you eating? I doubt you needed roids at you age man. What you have gained so far anyway is not bad at all. Up your quality food intake, keep the weights up and get lots of sleep. Drink lots of water too..... and for ****s sake make sure you got a PCT lined up or you loose all your gains for starters...
    great boobs , and great advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodgerj View Post
    Protein shakes are shit, I have them as a treat after my workouts......
    yah but he said he has A LOT OF EM, im hoping its not like 6 a day or any stupid number like that lol, but i guess we wont know until he posts his diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    yah but he said he has A LOT OF EM, im hoping its not like 6 a day or any stupid number like that lol, but i guess we wont know until he posts his diet
    your prob right, hell I usually drink 3 a day and everyone yells at me

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJM1984 View Post
    your prob right, hell I usually drink 3 a day and everyone yells at me
    Supplement with protein shakes. Don't use them as meal replacements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by englandnwest View Post
    best way sus works for me personaly is 250mg monday 250mg friday, then if u wana step it up to 750mg a week throw one in on the wednesday, everybodys body is diff its bout findin wat suits u best but keep on this site theres lots of good advise, good luck and keep us posted
    In what way does that work better for you than shooting the same amount per week split into eod shots would?

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    thanks everyone for your advice and sorry for typing like that the cap lock was on lol but your right Aaron you can't see the results in the mirror and no i'm not replacing protein shakes for meal i have 3 a day and its also a treat for me but my diet looks something like this i read in a muscle mag that eating 2 breakfests is a really good thing and i'll make you or break you so morning breakfest 1 i have a protein shake and a bannana 45min later 2nd breakfest i have 3 eggs and 2 packets of oatmeal then i have a fruit bar or something to keep my metabolism going 2 hours later then i have lunch witch is a turkey and swiss sandwitch on whole grain bread with an apple or something then 2 hours later another shake then another 2 hours later i workout right after workout another shake then dinner 2 hours after that chicken breast then some almonds beforee bed i heard was really good

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    pct man pct

    what are you doing for pct bro??

    you do know that pct is vital part of your cycle and without your gonna lose all thoses gains and your gonna be shutdown at 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceboxx226 View Post
    thanks everyone for your advice and sorry for typing like that the cap lock was on lol but your right Aaron you can't see the results in the mirror and no i'm not replacing protein shakes for meal i have 3 a day and its also a treat for me but my diet looks something like this i read in a muscle mag that eating 2 breakfests is a really good thing and i'll make you or break you so morning breakfest 1 i have a protein shake and a bannana 45min later 2nd breakfest i have 3 eggs and 2 packets of oatmeal then i have a fruit bar or something to keep my metabolism going 2 hours later then i have lunch witch is a turkey and swiss sandwitch on whole grain bread with an apple or something then 2 hours later another shake then another 2 hours later i workout right after workout another shake then dinner 2 hours after that chicken breast then some almonds beforee bed i heard was really good


    are you serious? your diet IS HORRIBLE
    i hope you were joking, its kids like you that should STAY AWAY FROM GEAR

    dude youre not eating nearly enough, how the F**K do you expect to notice any results? the amount youre eating is good for someone who weighs 75lbs yeah thats right 75lbs.

    you need 1.5g to 2g of protein per each pound of LBM
    you need more carbs
    cut the shakes down to 2

    eat big to get big

    do some research man, UP YOUR DIET NOW

    pm me if you need help, and did you notice that this forum board has a "SEARCH" button, try it

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    thanks alot boDAWG i knew i was not eating enough and everyone is complaining in the house i'm eating everything lol can someone please help me with a diet before it 2 late

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceboxx226 View Post
    thanks alot boDAWG i knew i was not eating enough and everyone is complaining in the house i'm eating everything lol can someone please help me with a diet before it 2 late


    pm me you should have had it figured out by now though, there is still some time to get your diet in check, pm me and pm me your stats age, weight, fat % and ill help you out
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    Quote Originally Posted by englandnwest View Post
    best way sus works for me personaly is 250mg monday 250mg friday, then if u wana step it up to 750mg a week throw one in on the wednesday, everybodys body is diff its bout findin wat suits u best but keep on this site theres lots of good advise, good luck and keep us posted
    trust me bro it dosnt work better for anyone shot twice a week. you want your blood levels to be as stead as possible so you get best gains with least sides and that will only happen with ed or eod injections. of course you can inject it twice a week and still grow but your results wont be better then if shot eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheddaNips View Post
    and sust is shot EOD, please research
    EOD? Sust is shot twice a week according to those damn guys who write the books!

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    boDAWG how do i PM you i'm very new to this just registered yesterday please hurry

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJuicer View Post
    EOD? Sust is shot twice a week according to those damn guys who write the books!
    nope sust eod is way better as it keeps the short esters at a steddy level

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJuicer View Post
    EOD? Sust is shot twice a week according to those damn guys who write the books!
    Read petro's response. I have personally shot sust in every conceivable schedule, and although there is little difference in gains, sides are GREATLY reduced when shot eod. Unstable blood levels are what causes sides such as acne, by following an injection protocol to allow more stable levels sides can be greatly reduced or eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceboxx226 View Post
    boDAWG how do i PM you i'm very new to this just registered yesterday please hurry
    you need 25 posts to pm.

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    hey guys check out my gear that i just put up if real or fake my source is very reliable but just making sure lol its in anobolic picture forums and its like the first one it says deca and sust real?? and that sucks i need 25 post i better get started then 2 PM boDAWG lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceboxx226 View Post
    hey guys check out my gear that i just put up if real or fake my source is very reliable but just making sure lol its in anobolic picture forums and its like the first one it says deca and sust real?? and that sucks i need 25 post i better get started then 2 PM boDAWG lol
    post dots on here lol or lil blank posts j/k

    go post in other threads ask questions and youll have it in an hour

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    post dots on here lol or lil blank posts j/k

    go post in other threads ask questions and youll have it in an hour
    although, if you are just trying to get your post count up, please go to the "post-whore" thread in the lounge and chat with people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    although, if you are just trying to get your post count up, please go to the "post-whore" thread in the lounge and chat with people.
    true i forgot about it

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    thanks buys i'll have 25 posts in a half hour lol then i'll PM you boDAWG so you can get my diet in line and finally gains some muscle lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    you need 25 posts to pm.
    ah damn im gettin there!

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    Great diet man, all you need to add really are donuts and about 5 or 6 Twinkies before you go to sleep. If water is too much hassle make a big batch of cool aid to have on hand. Also, the latest research is showing how animals naturally have the ability to reabsorb nutrients from their food taking in the maximum benefits. Dog's commonly do it by eating their own shit.

    Sorry man :-) here is a great diet post, check it out..

    http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...60&postcount=4

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    Be patient buddy i didnt see real results till my 6th week on test/decca

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSola View Post
    Be patient buddy i didnt see real results till my 6th week on test/decca
    did you see his diet? with that diet he wont see reults after week 66 lol

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    how do i PM someone i need th PM boDAWG and thanks rodgerj for your diet plan

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    I hate reading that an 18 year old kid has made this decision.but thats just me

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    you have no proper diet thought out and you are in week 4 of a cycle at 18yrs of age. Not good. You will never get results like this. Diet is everything. It is the basis on which muscles are built. No ammount of gear can make up for it.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...21#post3853021

    please read.

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