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Thread: O.K. This is what it's gonna look like-1st cycle-Critique

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    O.K. This is what it's gonna look like-1st cycle-Critique

    26 years old
    200 lbs
    5'9"
    prolly around 18%
    Lifting on and off 6 years

    So here goes-
    Weeks 1-10: Test E 500/week EOD
    1-4: Dianabol 30 ED
    12-16: Nolva 40/40/20/20
    12-whenever I get the boys back: Clomid
    10-14: Isatori Isa-Test
    12-16: Ergopharm 6-oxo
    Milk thistle throughout

    Please, any CONSTRUCTIVE critisizm is much appreciated.
    Just trying to get handle on what kind of gains can be expected. What, if anything should be added or changed.

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    Nice work looks good. I would loose more body fat be for you blast off. When your test kicks in early with the dbol your bp will go very high and you breathing will be tuff.

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    Here are some pics Not really sure on the B.F.% Anyone have an educated guess? I have about 6 weeks to do whatever I need with the fat. At least how much should I loose before I pin? Last time I was at 180 3 years ago I was close to shreded. And I'm sure I have more mass now These pics are a month old. have leaned out and gained even more.
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    Yea 20 % for sure. Also you just posted your face and said that you are planing to use an illegal drug. Please be more careful for your own saftey

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    wasnt even thinking. I cant even get paint to work now.

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    18-20. wouldn't twice a week be good enough for the enth. don't know anyone that loves needles. if you've got access to an elliptical trainer, half an hour at 160hbpm ed will melt that fat right off. i know i've lost 10 kilos in about 8 weeks. good luck bro

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    I have been known to faint while getting bloodwork or cortizone shots but I decided to man up. I won't let anyone pine me god forbid something happens. I was basing the EOD on sust so twice a week it will be. No ellipt. mach. Once it warms up a little up here I'll start running again. When I was down to 180 I was at three miles a day. I wont be doing it that much- maybe three times a week. I've been trying to use the rowing on the bowflex but it's not the same. Next thing I'm getting is a heart rate monitor and a jumprope. Maybe I'll switch it up.
    Last edited by launburga; 03-02-2008 at 06:23 AM.

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    Good deal do the work and it will pay off

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    BF look like 16-18 %
    You should run the test e for longer than 10 weeks
    test e can take up to 6 weeks to "kick in" if I were you, I'd run it for 12-14 weeks.
    looks like you've got the PCT down, hows the diet look?
    split dose twice a week

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    Diet is spot on right now. Those pics were a month ago to the day. Since then I swithched my workouts to 1 day 1 exercise per body part and 2 days off. Now I'm getting in three times as many workouts. I've put on some mass and lost a little more bf. I was going to only do the 10 weeks to keep it as light on my liver as possible seeing that this will be my first cycle. On top of that the order is just enough for 10; two more weeks would be more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by launburga View Post
    Diet is spot on right now. Those pics were a month ago to the day. Since then I swithched my workouts to 1 day 1 exercise per body part and 2 days off. Now I'm getting in three times as many workouts. I've put on some mass and lost a little more bf. I was going to only do the 10 weeks to keep it as light on my liver as possible seeing that this will be my first cycle. On top of that the order is just enough for 10; two more weeks would be more expensive.
    As far as taking it easy on your liver, a few weeks of injectables don't matter. If thats what you got then cool, just keep in mind, test e can kick in for some people at 3 weeks or it can take up to 6 weeks, what about lowering the dose a bit to extend it 2 more weeks

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    I was contemplating that but i dont know wether I should taper on or taper off. Taper on would make sense to me but could be wrong

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    No taper up or down. Stay with a consistent dose.

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    so would 10 weeks be ok without stretching it out?

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    10 weeks is fine, it's up to you, but if it were me, I'd do this...
    Instead of test e 500mg a week for 10 weeks

    week 1-12
    test e @ 400mg a week

    Also keep in mind that when drawing from bottle there will be some oil lost, say you have 10ml, you're gonna lose .5ml-1ml just from use

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