AAS and cholesterol

[sphincter]

so; I am keeping an eye on my blood work and every time I am on cycle it comes back WAAAAY off kilter. I have been taking fish oil and eating oats but it doesn't seem to be helping... any other ideas to keep my cholesterol numbers in check while on cycle?

[Wavelover]

Eating oats without limiting bad fat are useless bro.
Perhaps you need also anticholesterol medicine. Ask your doc or read which cholesterol is on the roof, the bad one (LDL) or the good one (HDL).

[longhorn814]

steroids are derived from cholesterol and thus they tend to mess with your values..17aa steroids are really hard on your values and Ive found no amount of supplements will keep the values normal when youre taking them..this is why I dont use orals anymore...injectables dont mess up my cholesterol profile nearly as much

[sphincter]

test/tren/deca and all injectable (of course).. no orals here... just rtardedly high bad cholesterol and dangerously low good cholesterol.

I usually eat lean gruond turkey instead of beef, I do eat a lot of eggs (whole) and that's the majority o mycholesterol intake as far as I know but I have to admit I am a bit ignorant on the subject...

[trulbfan3]

well you could cut out the yellows in your eggs for starters.....considering one whole egg contains your daily recomended amount of cholesteroll.

[longhorn814]

the tren is probably messing up your cholesterol the worst..harsh androgens do that as well..like I said there isnt much you can do about it while youre on cycle..its one of the hardest side effects to prevent..thats why you need to do bloodwork to monitor it and thats why we cycle steroids...egg yolks arent bad for ya either..sure theyre extra calories but they have good fats and a lot of vitamins in them and it doesnt really affect your lipid values either

[naturalsux]

niacin 500-1000mg twice a day. unsaturated fats, fish oils, and plenty of fiber.

[XNathan]

Nearly all cholesterol si from your metabolism. And set point is set by genes. You make it just worst with AS and 17aa even more. My cholesterol level is on low range all time. On cycle I had 6:1 ratio (with 17aa) of cycle 3:1. Thanks to my mother! TG really low every time.

[damiongage]

cycles through my cholesterol all out of whack....been as bad as 324 total.....3 months off cycle 192.....but i admittedly was not on the strictest diet.

[naturalsux]

Nearly all cholesterol si from your metabolism. And set point is set by genes. You make it just worst with AS and 17aa even more. My cholesterol level is on low range all time. On cycle I had 6:1 ratio (with 17aa) of cycle 3:1. Thanks to my mother! TG really low every time.

i must be the same way, i tested 101mg/dl.

[AthleticEngineering]

How long does it normally take for cholesterol levels to return to normal after a cycle?

[Dizz28]

one, just one, large egg contains about 70+% of your daily value of cholesterol, and it's mostly in the yolks, NO ONE can tell me that eating cholesterol like that won't have an effect on your blood lipids. That just makes no sence at all

[naturalsux]

one, just one, large egg contains about 70+% of your daily value of cholesterol, and it's mostly in the yolks, NO ONE can tell me that eating cholesterol like that won't have an effect on your blood lipids. That just makes no sence at all

i eat lots of yolks and i tested 101, i was just starting a cycle too. i will retest in 2 months.

[Dizz28]

101 what? HDL, LDL , Trigs.... what is 101

genetics play a very big role in it also, some people can eat a whole pig every day and still have relatively low Total and LDL levels. These are the lucky ones. While others eat a steak and thier total cholesterol value gains 20 points

My total cholesterol went from the high 140's to 256 at the tail end of a 2 month cycle of Tren/Test/Dbol. My doctor was like WTF have you been eating in the last 6 months (date of my last previous test). I said Mcdonalds, bacon and eggs all the time... He responded "Cut that crap out" and retested me 6 months later when I had been about 5 months off the juice and it was back down to about 180.

Anyway, moral of the story some AAS can have a huge impact on all values of you lipid panel no matter what your genetics are and eating 300% of your daily value just in one sitting of eggs isn't the smartest idea in the world

[naturalsux]

101 what? HDL, LDL , Trigs.... what is 101

genetics play a very big role in it also, some people can eat a whole pig every day and still have relatively low Total and LDL levels. These are the lucky ones. While others eat a steak and thier total cholesterol value gains 20 points

My total cholesterol went from the high 140's to 256 at the tail end of a 2 month cycle of Tren/Test/Dbol. My doctor was like WTF have you been eating in the last 6 months (date of my last previous test). I said Mcdonalds, bacon and eggs all the time... He responded "Cut that crap out" and retested me 6 months later when I had been about 5 months off the juice and it was back down to about 180.

Anyway, moral of the story some AAS can have a huge impact on all values of you lipid panel no matter what your genetics are and eating 300% of your daily value just in one sitting of eggs isn't the smartest idea in the world

total cholesterol. when i give blood they will test it if you want. im a heavy beef eater too, but i take niacin twice a day and eats lots of fiber. i know i could have good genes, but would like to think its my diet

[longhorn814]

one, just one, large egg contains about 70+% of your daily value of cholesterol, and it's mostly in the yolks, NO ONE can tell me that eating cholesterol like that won't have an effect on your blood lipids. That just makes no sence at all

I know people who's cholesterol has gotten better by eating more whole eggs..a lot of the latest scientific research has shown that saturated fat and trans fat are more responsible for higher cholesterol values, not the consumption of dietary cholesterol!!! An egg yolk has about 5 grams of fat and about 3.5 grams are healthy fats and 0 transfat..i wouldnt be consuming a dozen whole eggs/day and some people are more sensitive to dietary cholesterol than others, but I consume about 2-3 whole eggs/day and my cholesterol values are in the normal range..at least when Im off cycle

[Dizz28]

total cholesterol. when i give blood they will test it if you want. im a heavy beef eater too, but i take niacin twice a day and eats lots of fiber. i know i could have good genes, but would like to think its my diet

101 total cholesterol.... really... that's a bit hard to believe. I remember a doc at the clinic i used to work at tested at 134 total cholesterol and they ended up doing a hormone panel on him to make sure his testosterone levels were in check. Your body makes test from cholesterol and with a value like that... you body isn't gonna have much to work with. If you really had a total cholesterol value of 101, that's not very healthy. Your body needs cholesterol.

Anyway, like I said, genes play a big factor in your lipid values off cycle. I gave you an example of what happened to mine when I was on cycle but my off cycle values stay about the same no matter how much fast food, bacon and grease i eat. Like I said, people like that are the lucky ones, Some people can't eat a steak without their values jumping.

But, I would never use myself as an example to tell people "Oh it's ok to eat these foods, I do and my values are normal."

[longhorn814]

yeah 101 total is actually really bad..i had a total once of 118 combined with a HDL of 1!!!! Thats actually not good at all..damn winstrol!! lol Your total should be above 140..too low a cholesterol is a bad thing and can be signs of low testosterone and depression

[naturalsux]

101 total cholesterol.... really... that's a bit hard to believe. I remember a doc at the clinic i used to work at tested at 134 total cholesterol and they ended up doing a hormone panel on him to make sure his testosterone levels were in check. Your body makes test from cholesterol and with a value like that... you body isn't gonna have much to work with. If you really had a total cholesterol value of 101, that's not very healthy. Your body needs cholesterol.

Anyway, like I said, genes play a big factor in your lipid values off cycle. I gave you an example of what happened to mine when I was on cycle but my off cycle values stay about the same no matter how much fast food, bacon and grease i eat. Like I said, people like that are the lucky ones, Some people can't eat a steak without their values jumping.

But, I would never use myself as an example to tell people "Oh it's ok to eat these foods, I do and my values are normal."

well like i said i just started a cycle with dbol in it, when i was tested. idk im kinda worried now.

[mario_ps2]

niacin 500-1000mg twice a day. unsaturated fats, fish oils, and plenty of fiber.

I second that...3 months ago after my test e and test p of 6 weeks my cholesterol went up to 238. 2 months later after taking niacin 1000 mg a day and eating lots of tuna with a moderate deficit of 500 calories a day, got it to 150.

[sphincter]

I'm sitting at:

291 Total
30 HDL
231 LDL
30 VLDL
9.7 Chol/HDL
152 Trig
T4 is at 3.2 (low--should be 4.5-12.1)

I take 2 grams flax seed oil ED as well as a multivit, creatine semi-regularly, protein shakes & saw palmetto.

[sphincter]

I second that...3 months ago after my test e and test p of 6 weeks my cholesterol went up to 238. 2 months later after taking niacin 1000 mg a day and eating lots of tuna with a moderate deficit of 500 calories a day, got it to 150.

umm, correct me if I'm wrong but if you initially tested right after a cycle and then got tested 2 months later shouldn't your numbers have been drastically better anyway regardless of your diet or supplementation routine?

[Dizz28]

I'm sitting at:

291 Total
30 HDL
231 LDL
30 VLDL
9.7 Chol/HDL
152 Trig
T4 is at 3.2 (low--should be 4.5-12.1)

I take 2 grams flax seed oil ED as well as a multivit, creatine semi-regularly, protein shakes & saw palmetto.

Wow, you need to do something about that... especially your LDL levels

[PT]

I'm sitting at:

291 Total
30 HDL
231 LDL
30 VLDL
9.7 Chol/HDL
152 Trig
T4 is at 3.2 (low--should be 4.5-12.1)

I take 2 grams flax seed oil ED as well as a multivit, creatine semi-regularly, protein shakes & saw palmetto.

and your dr dosnt have you on medication for that?

[sphincter]

yeah.. that was not too long after the end of a cycle of test P and tren A. plus I ate that morning and didn't know I was getting bloodwork so I am not as alarmed about it as I would be if it was a clean test. when I tested last time well after cycle and PCT everything was fine. I am going to mix in Niacin and something called "cholestFit" and see what happens. I'll get bloodwork done again in a couple weeks and ACTUALLY FAST for the test and hopefully things will be not too bad.

[facile]

I have read about plant sterols helping and have some friends who swear by them, I don't think they would hurt.

[mario_ps2]

umm, correct me if I'm wrong but if you initially tested right after a cycle and then got tested 2 months later shouldn't your numbers have been drastically better anyway regardless of your diet or supplementation routine?

Well.. I think that was part of it....

[MidwestMuscle]

Guys Deff try Red yeast Rice, One of the best to Lower you cholesterol and LDL's. Heres a List of suppliments that Help Red yeast rice (the best), Niacin, Flax seed oil, ***** 3,6,9, Oatmeal everyday with a low fat diet also helps, Cardio, olive oil fax may help raise HDL's

[MidwestMuscle]

Lipator is hepatoxic and causes some nasty muscle cramps