This is all I have, recommend a stack?

**jsncs** · 03-05-2008, 03:26 PM

I have been reading the forums and will continue to do so, however I did not find my answers.

I am in a remote location and have access to only a few compounds.

Can anyone recommend a stack utilizing the things I can get?

This will be my 2nd cycle, the first one went well mostly in part due to the reading I did here. (sustanon , deca and novaldex,clomid)
I did the best I could with these but think I may not have dosed high enough or did everything in the right time frames.

I had no issues with gyno, acne or sex drives.

I have not seen any stacks using just those compounds (did I overlook it)?

I have done everything right as far as exercise and diet modification. I am 6'1 and went from 255 lbs to 220 on my own before even touching a cycle. I am now 220-225 lbs however my shape is much different than when it was a fat 220...lol. The wife loves it.

My goals are not to get insanely huge but rather maintain a nice mass and look cut most of the time.

The compounds I can get are:

Sustanon 250
Deca durabolin
Arimidex
Proviron
Clomid
Nolvadex
Femara
Winstrol (possibly)
Anavar (possibly)

I would like to solicit any advice/opinions on these and how and when to take them. I will keep looking on this board and if it has been posted before, I am sorry.

Thanks in advance

**Bigmax** · 03-05-2008, 03:32 PM

bro,you had overlooked it as far as the compounds...sus,deca ,winstrol and anavar those are the AAS for muscle growth...the others are PCT and ancillaries...bro go to search and type them in...it will give you plenty of info.

**jsncs** · 03-05-2008, 03:37 PM

Thanks, I have read each and every one of them.

I am not looking to use all of those...lol. I am just listing what is available to me so someone can create a cycle.

I absolutely can not get my hands on straight test here, so the main part would be the sus and deca . I was looking for more info such as length of cycle and amount per week.

Am I totally off base with only using those two. Did I misread something?
I mean it went well my 1st time around, was that dumb luck?

I do not mind doing my homework and I have no intention of starting another cycle until I have all my ducks in a row.

Oh well, back to the threads.

Thanks again

**nowdenlid** · 03-05-2008, 03:43 PM

125mgs 1/2ml of sustonon injected every other day will work wonders for you if your diet and lifting is good.

go resertch pct in the pct forum bro..

test is all you need for first cycle(sustonon)

**Bigmax** · 03-05-2008, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

125mgs 1/2ml of sustonon injected every other day will work wonders for you if your diet and lifting is good.

go resertch pct in the pct forum bro..

test is all you need for first cycle(sustonon)

Sorry bro...dont agree...tell us why you test is all you need for first cycle???..There is absolutely no written rule that states that...as a matter of fact my first cycle was a deca only cycle and I gained good and had great esults...15 years later I'm fully functional with no problems...now i will agree that first cycle can be 1 compound like a test or deca something basic..that would take simply 2 injects a week...something like sus is way more complicated having to inject EOD which by the way he can inject a full 250mg of sus twice a week and be fine.

**jsncs** · 03-05-2008, 03:50 PM

Thanks for the quick replies.

I think I misused the search function earlier as I have already found a few things I overlooked.

You guys are quick!

**nowdenlid** · 03-05-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Sorry bro...dont agree...tell us why you test is all you need for first cycle???..There is absolutely no written rule that states that...as a matter of fact my first cycle was a deca only cycle and I gained good and had great esults...15 years later I'm fully functional with no problems...now i will agree that first cycle can be 1 compound like a test or deca something basic..that would take simply 2 injects a week...something like sus is way more complicated having to inject EOD which by the way he can inject a full 250mg of sus twice a week and be fine.

i think with the test for first cycle thing is a safe guard for useing one compound to start,i would say it is a lot better to go with test for first time it is the basic steroid and keeps things simple for the noob.

you wouldent say to this guy that deca only would be suitable for him(would you?)

unless he adds a hrt of test in there and that will only make things more confuseing for him....

test only first cycle=simplicity for starters....

**Bigmax** · 03-05-2008, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

i think with the test for first cycle thing is a safe guard for useing one compound to start,i would say it is a lot better to go with test for first time it is the basic steroid and keeps things simple for the noob.

you wouldent say to this guy that deca only would be suitable for him(would you?)

unless he adds a hrt of test in there and that will only make things more confuseing for him....

test only first cycle=simplicity for starters....

Of course i would...why not??..deca a safe anabolic that will give good gain and low sides...pct is where it comes in bro...he's shut down whether he takes test or deca...if you're talking about his dick working thats not everyone...again and i'm talking from experience...not parroting what some else posted on here sometime back...i'm not attacking bro...just i see this all the time..test only for first time and thats just not the law bro...Bit lets it go as we are hijacking the man's thread...anything else pm me...

**damiongage** · 03-05-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Sorry bro...dont agree...tell us why you test is all you need for first cycle???..There is absolutely no written rule that states that...as a matter of fact my first cycle was a deca only cycle and I gained good and had great esults...15 years later I'm fully functional with no problems...now i will agree that first cycle can be 1 compound like a test or deca something basic..that would take simply 2 injects a week...something like sus is way more complicated having to inject EOD which by the way he can inject a full 250mg of sus twice a week and be fine.

Using one compound for a first cycle is a great recommendation IMO. If you develop any sides or have complications...you will know exactly what they stemmed from. If you use say sust and deca and get gyno, how do you know if you are estrogen or progesterone gyno prone. Not to mention that your androgen receptors are fresh and should respond very nicley to a single compound. While I agree there are no steadfast rules, using just test for a first cycle is still good advise IMO. That being said my 1st cycle was dbol , test, and eq with no complications....but knowing what I know now...I would have opted for test only.

As far as shooting sust bi weekly. Yes it can be done, but seeing as more than 1/3 (36%) of the compound is short ester (prop & phenylprop) shooting eod or ed a better option, and will result in more stable test levels, hopefully meaning less side effects.

just my 2cc's

**lex57** · 03-05-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

125mgs 1/2ml of sustonon injected every other day will work wonders for you if your diet and lifting is good.

go resertch pct in the pct forum bro..

test is all you need for first cycle(sustonon)

hey guys he said its his second cycle. so no real need for a deca only cycle or anything like that.........bro youre good i think with sust deca and winny. sounds good to me.

**damiongage** · 03-06-2008, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by lex57

hey guys he said its his second cycle. so no real need for a deca only cycle or anything like that.........bro youre good i think with sust deca and winny. sounds good to me.

Dont go throu***ng logic into our pissing match......

I am with you on the sust and winny...or better yet sust, var. Deca bloats me to all hell....and do not like it as compound at all unless you are looking for plain mass gains, which he said is not a priority.

**lex57** · 03-06-2008, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by damiongage

Dont go throu***ng logic into our pissing match......

I am with you on the sust and winny...or better yet sust, var. Deca bloats me to all hell....and do not like it as compound at all unless you are looking for plain mass gains, which he said is not a priority.

sorry about the logic......