wtf

[nowdenlid]

Originally Posted by anadrol-king
yer winny no less than 50mgs ed ...

to the thread starter you need to do alot of reading on pct....

deca is a waste of time and money if you do it undar 10 weeks and less than 400mgs every week.......

basic cycle

test 12 weeks at 500mgs every week

deca 10 weeks 400mgs every week

pct starts two weeks after last shot of test(pct=nolva/clomid go look it up}

thats what i posted and under is what a member who has 3000 posts said...

what you guys think ?its getting really strange all these people saying different thing on other boards




You're very wrong. The test should be ran 10wks. Thats the usual baseline for Enanthate or Cypionate. Same with the Deca. Also, if this is his first cycle, 500mg/wk of test is too much.

As far as winny - everyone responds differently. Some have joint problems at 50mg/ed, some at 75mg/ed. If you're worried about your joints, start at 25mg/ed. If you feel good, take 50mg/ed. For no more than 5 wks total.

PCT starts 3-4wks after your last shot. 2 weeks isn't long enough for the esters to clear your body. Please don't give out bad advice people.

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one of the many reasons I avoid most other boards.

[green22]

I think people have there own opinions and this argument will never be settled. What works for one person may not work for someone else. There isnt a right or wrong dose to take. None of this s h i t is set in stone. Just do research and try to make a reasonable decision based on your findings and experiences.

[nowdenlid]

I think people have there own opinions and this argument will never be settled. What works for one person may not work for someone else. There isnt a right or wrong dose to take. None of this s h i t is set in stone. Just do research and try to make a reasonable decision based on your findings and experiences.

yer i agree bro but i think that 10 weeks on test e/deca you arnt getting the full benfits out of the long esters witch can be run up and past 12 weeks with far better results than just 10....

[jbonez19]

that's exactly what was recommended to me. 12 weeks test-e 500mg shot twice a week in 2 250mg shots, 10 weeks deca 400mg 2shots of 200. from what i've read it's a good all round mass/strength builder. i had decided just to run the test-e for my first cycle though that's fine yes? and then add the deca on my second. plus pheedno's or stocky's PCT. not trying to hi-jack. any comments.

[Merc..]

yer i agree bro but i think that 10 weeks on test e/deca you arnt getting the full benfits out of the long esters witch can be run up and past 12 weeks with far better results than just 10....

It is a very arguable subject.. Many knowledgeable people I know do 8- 10 weeks deca / test cycles.( usually with some sort of prime and front load)...

There are so many diffrent ways people cycle ...

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that's exactly what was recommended to me. 12 weeks test-e 500mg shot twice a week in 2 250mg shots, 10 weeks deca 400mg 2shots of 200. from what i've read it's a good all round mass/strength builder. i had decided just to run the test-e for my first cycle though that's fine yes? and then add the deca on my second. not trying to hi-jack. any comments.

Personally I think everyone should run test only for a first cycle. Gear affects everyone different, if you start with 2 compounds then have an adverse reaction you wouldn't know which caused it. I recommend test only first, then maybe test with a dbol kicker second, test/dbol/deca third, or something along those lines. That way you get used to feeling the effects of each compound.

[jbonez19]

Personally I think everyone should run test only for a first cycle. Gear affects everyone different, if you start with 2 compounds then have an adverse reaction you wouldn't know which caused it. I recommend test only first, then maybe test with a dbol kicker second, test/dbol/deca third, or something along those lines. That way you get used to feeling the effects of each compound.

yep, thanks for that. only thing is i can't really take orals as i have a gut condition. but yeah test-e first and then i'll add the deca 2nd. time around. gives me plenty of time to think about what third compound to add.

[Merc..]

yep, thanks for that. only thing is i can't really take orals as i have a gut condition. but yeah test-e first and then i'll add the deca 2nd. time around. gives me plenty of time to think about what third compound to add.

Keep us posted with your cycle results when you start Jbones ..





Merc.

[jbonez19]

Keep us posted with your cycle results when you start Jbones ..





Merc.

sure will. thanks guys. just wanted to thank all of you guys, including all the people that worked so hard on the stickies etc. i've learnt heaps, and the world of AAS's is definitely alot safer and more knowledgeable thanks to you guys. keep up the good work. j