Im depressed and i need your help!!

[Blayker]

First of all i would like to thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Im going to be 19 at may,im 6.2 ft 110kg atm.
and i have been doing some weight lifting for about 8 months contstly now,and i used to do weight lifting when i was younger also.

Im on my 3rd week of steroids and there is 3 months left for my both bulking/cuting cycles.
and im taking it under the suprvise of my coach.
i would like to say here that he told me im not going to have any side effects that is going to hurt me and he knows what he is doing.

And these are the types of steroids that im taking atm:
sustanon
testosterone enanthate
spectriol
equi-gan
deca-durabolin
methandienone tablet x50
primobolan depot

i take the 3 types of steroids each week and the types of steroids that im taking change weekly.also i take them on sat/mon/wesnd/ with 1ml on each day(sat/mod/wens/).So total of 3lm weekly.

I would like to mention that i take "Legalon" which (improves the liver function and also protect it from damge) also proviren(two tablet 3-4 times week) and Nolvadex(one tablet 3-4 times week) which help me to kick the female hormons out of my body and to not have the gyno.

After knowing all these information i would like to ask some questiones that are giving me a nightmares.
1-Did i stunned my growth?
2-Is three months and half long term cycle for guy who is taking it for the first time?
3-Im experiencing shrinking testicals which scared the hell out of me,i called my coach and he said its ok and it will become back to it normal size after the steroids.My question here is that true? and i dont have to worry about it even if it get smaller than now?
4-Im i going to lose all the muscles that i gained after the cycle even if i work out 5 times a week?
5-Did i kill my carrer of being athlete?And im i going to have problems when i grow older like in the mid 20s or 30s?
6-My nipple is geting bigger and also my brest is that ok?

Thank you again for reading i would like to know the answers of my questions since im really depressed these days and i whish that i never took roids.

Let me know if you have any questiones.

[canadian meat]

Were does one start.First your coach Is an idiot to say the least advising an 18 yr old on this horible horible cycle no PCT anywere Wow I would suggest you stop this cycle asap.

[Lach01]

First of all i would like to thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Im going to be 19 at may,im 6.2 ft 110kg atm.
and i have been doing some weight lefting for about 8 months contstly now,and i used to do weight lefting when iwas younger also.

Im on my 3rd week of steroids and there is 3 months left for my both bulking/cuting cycles.
and im taking it under the suprvise of my coach.
i would like to say here that he told me im not going to have any side effects that is going to hurt me and he knows what he is g doing.

And these are the types of steroids that im taking atm:
sustanon
testosterone enanthate
spectriol
equi-gan
deca-durabolin
methandienone tablet x50
primobolan depot

i take the 3 types of steroids each week and the types of steroids that im taking change weekly.also i take them on sat/mon/wesnd/ with 1ml on each day.So total of 3lm weekly.

I would like to mention that itake "Legalon" which (improves the liver function and also protect it from damge) also proviron and Nolvadex which help me to kick the female hormons out of my body and to not have the gyno.

After knowing all these information i would like to ask some questiones that is giving me a nightmares.
1-Did i stunned my growth? possibly
2-Is three months and half long term cycle for guy who is taking it for the first time?no, but the amount of products is at 19
3-Im experiencing shrinking testicals which scared the hell out of me,i called my coach and he said its ok and it will become back to it normal size after the steroids.My question here is that true? and i dont have to worry about it even when it get smaller?thought your coach knew what he was talking about ge hcg and run 350-500ius twice a week, and yes they will come back at end btu possibly not to full size
4-Im going to lose all the muscles that i gained after the cycle even if i work out 5 times a week?not all of it possibly just the water, but you need a very good diet and pct
5-Did i kill my carrer of being athlete?And im i going to have problems when i grow older like in the mid 20s or 30s? no if you get off the gear now and go natural.
Thank you again for reading i would like to know the answers of my questions since im really depressed these days and i whish that i never took roids.

Let me know if you have any questiones.

Answers are in bold and red for you, Why the hell has your coach got you on gear at 19?? if i were you i would slap him silly because he does not know what he is doing, your at your prime for natural test and still growing and maturing, he has got you on way to much stuff for a first course. and you have only been training for 8months, you should be training for years at least!

All you need to do to put weight on is increase and get a descent diet (go to the diet forum and read everything in there or ask beast fro help)

I can see you doing yourself some serious damage doing all of that, IMO and i would do this is get rid of your coach stop doing this cysle completly wait 2 weeks or so and start a pct with HCG nolva and clomid and some l-dex and do everythign naturally while you still can.

[BITTAPART2]

tell your coach this.....






























YOUR FIRED!!

[Lach01]

second that

[Blayker]

now im really sad,i just stunned my growth,and my coach doesnt know what he is doing,and my balls are small.GG

what are the factors that determin if my growth has stunned?

[Lach01]

growth plates get doc to check em out but mate your 6'2" know how much id give to be that height lol no point getting depressed about it, just learn freom it and move on and get new coach and money back. ball size dont matter - small veg bigger meat, but get sum HCG run that for 2weeks and then start a PCT but GET OF THAT COURSE!

[legobricks]

Bro relax. You most likely didnt stunt your growth (youll need x-rays to see that) and your testicles are atrophied due to the fact your inejcting endogeneous hormones hormones which shut down your natural testosterone production. When you do a proper PCT in the end your testicles will start to produce testosterone and be back full size. Your coach is an idiot, and you can tell him I said that. He obviously has no clue what he is doing. You are on WAY too many compounds. If I were you I would stop the deca, spectriol, equi gan, sustanon, and primo. The test and dbol would be plenty of AAS for a first go. Go serch in the educational threads on begginer cycles. Youll be quite please with them

[legobricks]

BTW, your 6'2" already...you want to be taller? Focus on training and diet right as much as you can. I still cannot believe he has you on 7 comopunds!!!! Thats nuts! Also check out the PCT section as your going to need one after this cycle.

[Rando911]

I cant believe my eyes! I did not know how bad of a person it would take to suggest roids to a teen! Bro quit the aas asap. Your coach should go to jail.

[Blayker]

Thanks for replay

i just want to know how bad is it to be on 7 types of steroids,is it that bad?and how bad would it be?

just before i kick my coach ass.

and about my breast is it going to be back normal like other males?

[Sculpture]

its too late to stop now in my opinion your already a juicer. Like stated above keep it simple like test and d-bol you dont need 7 different compounds doing 7 different things inside you. Your 6'2'' so who cares if you dont grow taller, you already tall, any taller and youd probly start getting uncoordinated anyway. Get some hcg to use during cycle to keep balls restored if you can and educate yourcself on PCT so you can get together the supplies you need to come off the steroids and keep most of the gains. Don't freak out or beat yourself up just embrace what you've begun and make the best of it. And yes your coach was obviously thinking more about making himself look good than he was your wellbeing but you crossed the line now so make the best of it thats my viewpoint!

[Oki-Des]

Hey Blayker, the guys on this website know what the hell they are talking about. There are always disagreements when many people are involved, but with your case everyone here is in agreement. Your coach is an idiot. He may have done this years ago, but there are people here that can really help you reach your goals in an effective manner and appropriate for your age.
Your coach really has no idea what he is doing on a variety of areas. Many people will say you are too young to begin with, but at any age what you are doing would not be suggested especially without PCT. Your coach does not know what he is doing, at all, and it makes no sense to even ask his opinion anymore for anything. He may not know how ignorant he is, but you should not have to suffer for his stupidity.
All in all, I would not worry too much. You will most likely be fine, but when doing aas recklessly you certainly are exponentially increasing your chances for a problem. I am sure there are other people on here who had the same experience their first time, providing they are too old to have had this board to come to. But now with wealth of information available it is absurd not to take advantage of it. This site will teach you plenty. Good Luck with your coach.

[mclovin009]

hey bro i am sorry to hear that your coach is such a f***ing d.bag. if i was you i would beat the shit out of him... whats he gona do call the cops??? if he really knew anything about steroids he would have not brought them up to you or gave you anavar. but anyways, i too am 19 and on my first real cycle, but i went into this full on knowing what i was doing. you will be okay just read up on pct and make sure you get some clomid

[Blayker]

thanks for replaying my freinds and yeah what you said is true idont have to suffer for his stupidity.

But iwant to know what is PCT and AAs means? if you have the time.
And what should ido with the cycle that im on atm.should i contune or cut it?

[mclovin009]

if i was you i would just run the sust for 8-10 weeks total. inject it every other day and take 50mg of the d-bol for 4 weeks

[mclovin009]

And Get A Good Pct!!!!!

[legobricks]

Read the profiles on steroids to give you a basic understanding about what your taking (dbol and test Enanthate) those are the only 2 you should stick with. REad about PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) by running the cycle it will give you time to order your PCT and research it out a bit on how to use it. AAS stands for anabolic-androgenic steroids. Stick to the single ester test as its easier for you, run that for 10-12 weeks. 2 weeks after your last injection Start your PCT. You can find a good PCT in the PCT section. All your ancilleries can be found from our websites sponsor, www.ar-r.com . If you do a lot of reading and asking questions you can pull yourself outta this mess. Were all here to help, and your coach is an idiot.

[BITTAPART2]

you should tell your coach about this board, Id love to hear his explation for this, and get flamed like there is no tomorow. I am really uphauled that this guy would do that to you, does he even have any credentials?

[RapaciousShark]

I cant believe my eyes! I did not know how bad of a person it would take to suggest roids to a teen! Bro quit the aas asap. Your coach should go to jail.

x2

About your nipples...how exactly have they changed. I'd be worried about that.

[bluehaze]

Don't be depressed bro, everyone makes mistakes, espically when they trust someone like their coach. It would be highly suggested that you take some of the advice in this thread like legobricks was saying.

And don't kick your coach's ass. Cause then you'll make a news report and all they will be talking about is a "roid-raging maniac."

[Blayker]

OK
after i have finshed reading all the articles out there(please correct me if im wrong) i have to take:
1-HCG during the cycle twice a week,so my balls will come back to it normal size and also to get my natural Test back and to get more muscles during the cycle.(Is it possible to take it after the cycle?)
1-PCT after the 2 weeks from the last injection to not lose any muscle/strength gain,but i dont know when to stop?and also how much and how many times i have to take the pct!?

But the thing that i didnt understand is that both HCG/PCT increase the Test lvl in my body,so if that true why do i have to take PCT while i can use HCG to get my Test lvl back to keep my muscles/str?

and about my nipple it got lil but bigger by size and also my breast.

[crazyhorse1960]

PCT stands for post cycle therapy its a therapy you use after your cycle and it is NOT a compound!..however HCG is a certain compound you can use during your PCT.all this information is provided in Anthony Roberts (PCT)and also Pheedno's PCT) you will find these 2 protocol in the steroids forum under PCT(post cycle therapy),there you will gain a beter understanding of the different compounds that you can use during your PCT.but keep in mind that PCT is very important after a cycle,with out you will most or all of your gains.Good luck and keep us posted.

[legobricks]

Dont need to mess with HCG. Your young and you should bounce back with a proper PCT lines up. When going to the PCT forum, look towards the top. There should be sticky threads that you can look at to get an awesome PCT lined up. Look under Anthony Roberts PCT thread. Disregard the HCG portion of it as once again you dont need it. You are only 3-4 weeks into cycle so drop all the compuonds except for the Test enanthate and dbol. dbol you can stop taking around week 5 and continue the test until week 10 or stretch it out to 12 weeks. 2 weeks after that last test enanthate injection then start your PCT. Its real easy bro, there is a lot more to research on this board as I am learning new things every day still. Here is an example PCT taken from Anthony Roberts PCT (and once again it can be found at www.ar-r.com which is our boards sponsor);

Week Nolvadex/ HCG/ Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Taken directly from Anthony Roberts PCT sticky thread in the PCT forum, excpet I cut out the HCG because IMO its overkill.

More info can be found using these links (all PCT links)

Anthony Roberts PCT (read it all junior)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

PCT and cycle recomendations (once again read it all for knowledge)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=198848

More SERM/AI info (more knowledge)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545

[RapaciousShark]

nipples - any hard fibroglandular lumps behind them? I'm getting the idea that your areolas are bigger an you have some adipose (fatty breast) tissue growing in your lower chest?

Ok well, u can't just hop on a SERM live nolvadex bc you're on deca, and for reasons you'll understand later, that's a bad idea. You can use it later though. Right now you need to order one of the following a) letro b) liquidex, or c) exemestane from the board sponsor and start using it immediately. If your breast changes in any way that is not due to muscular growth then you're on your way to social and financial hell.

Do what I said if you don't want to look like a hermaphrodite. Good luck to you bro.

[RapaciousShark]

I cant believe my eyes! I did not know how bad of a person it would take to suggest roids to a teen! Bro quit the aas asap. Your coach should go to jail.

X 1,000,000

That ass deserves it prison-style

[bigdog494]

I would take it to your coach with a dumbell . save the juice for latr on in life bro..

[texasmk4]

lure your coach tie him with ropes and inject all the juice in him...... that should be his punishment for puting a 19 yrs old on AAS.

[Markosterone]

wtf is all this shit about his coach. the dude is 19yrs old and capable of thinking by himself.

cut out some compounds like mentioned above, and get pct ready!

enjoy your cycle! I loved my first time

[wilson9d]

BTW, your 6'2" already...you want to be taller?

YES!!!! Big, is 6'3".

[RapaciousShark]

wtf is all this shit about his coach. the dude is 19yrs old and capable of thinking by himself.

cut out some compounds like mentioned above, and get pct ready!

enjoy your cycle! I loved my first time

His coach is a douchebag, thats what this shit is about him.

You're right tho he can think for himself and should enjoy the cycle IF he manages his estrogen properly

[Blayker]

Well thank you guys for all the replays and the help

about the breast well my breast is kind bigger and the nipple is big tall and wide which is scaring the hell out of me,and idont see any hard fibroglandular lumps behind them.

thank you.

[*mark*]

1. it is impossible to say for sure if your growth is stunted, however steroids that have a high conversion rate to estrogen are the ones that stunt growth, sorry, but almost all of yours do.
2. 14 weeks is not too long for a first cycle, it is very common for injectible cycles to last 12-16 weeks. You are however taking way too many substances for your first cycle, a typical first cycle will consist of one injectible, like a testosterone, and an oral steroid.
3. the shrunken testicles is common in steroid cycles, especially when you are taking a lot of stuff, it means your natural testosterone production has been shut down, however after your cycle, you need to do a pct, usually consisting of clomid, and possibly some HCG, this will bring everything back to normal.
4. if you work out regularly, and eat right, and do pct, you should keep almost all of it, minus the water weight from bloating.
5. You shouldn't have any problems later on in life, look at Arnold Schwartzenegger, he is in his 60's and still goin strong. As far as the sports career, i have no idea, but if it is of any comfort to you, a shit load of professional athletes have juiced in their day.
6. As for the whole nipple thing, that sounds like the onset of gyno, you should get some arimidex and take it throughout the cycle.

Just so you know, your coach is a deuschbag and can get in a shit ton of trouble for pushing steroids on you, however you might be in some shit too if you get caught.

In all honesty, im real sorry for what happened to you, no one should take steroids until they are 100% ready, and they should have a few years of gym time under their belt before trying steroids. Youre also kinda young to do them, but then again, so am i and tons of others.

[Blayker]

Here is new update...
After firing my coach i looked for new coach and he gived me this new cycle(he did it with what is left of the steroids that i have):
6 weeks long cycle
sustanonx1 bottles
testosterone enanthatex2 bottles
spectriolx9ml injection
methandienone tablet x50
primobolan depotx21

but he didnt know anything about the nolvadex and proviren so i want your advice here

And about my growth i actully finshed growing i remember when i broke my wrist(1 year and half) the doctor told me that i finshed growing and im not going to be any taller then that 6.2 so im kinda happy now but the thing is can my bones grow wide?or did i stunt that also?

[RapaciousShark]

I'm starting to wonder about your "coaches," bro

[HolyBlade]

stop asking pepole and start doing reaserch ,not to be a prick about it ,but the problem is that your a bit ignorent in the field ,i'm not blameing your ,it's not like thier teaching "anbolics 101 " at college these days ,so stop takeing advice ,and start reading EVERYTHING there is too read on the subject ,knowledge is power ,and in this area ,it WILL save your health.

[*mark*]

tough to say, however there are tons of people who take steroids when they are in early high school, all though im not sure, i dont think they stay stuck in a 15 yr olds body forever. I know a kid who took a shit load of prohormones in high school, he is short as shit, but he continued to fill out even after he stopped.

[NATE0406]

why not just research and learn for your self what you need to know and stop putting your health in other ppls hands. now that you know what the problem is you need to fix it. if not then its on you.

[legobricks]

I'm starting to wonder about your "coaches," bro

I agree.


First you say you dont know if you should even be using AAS and we say no, your coach is an idiot and then tell you how to pull thru it. NOW you are asking us on how to run almost the same identical stack that your 1st "coach" put you on that your 2nd "coach" is suggesting. Im going to stick with this answer......

Way too many compounds still. Get off now, do PCT as it was explained to you in this thread, research out a proper diet, and also research anabolics and how they will affect your body.


This is unbelievable.

[NATE0406]

stop asking pepole and start doing reaserch ,not to be a prick about it ,but the problem is that your a bit ignorent in the field ,i'm not blameing your ,it's not like thier teaching "anbolics 101 " at college these days ,so stop takeing advice ,and start reading EVERYTHING there is too read on the subject ,knowledge is power ,and in this area ,it WILL save your health.

i agree.... at first i felt bad for you but know i can see that using aas is something that you do want to do and you just want someone to tell you how to do it. i think it is a sign of laziness. not trying to flame but thats how i feel.