Armidax To Cut Water Retention?

[ARNIE83]

on my last cycle i was taking the following:

Monday - 250mg ethanate and 200mg Deca

Thursday - 250mg ethanate and 200mg Deca.

during that time (16 weeks) i went from 14 stone to 17 stone and experienced some pretty good strength gains E.g bench went from 220lbs to 352lbs! whilst staying pretty lean too. (I'm 5"9 tall)
obviously with the good comes the bad. I retained quite a bit of water(although not excessive) and suffered from pretty bad acne around the shoulders, lower back/lat areas and biceps.
Does taking Armidax help with the water retention and does taking it during a cycle prevent gains?
I'm a little worried as my next cycle will include Dianobol tabs as well as the same dose of ethanate and deca for the middle part of my 16 week cycle.

Also any ideas for acne prevention? I took Accutane before taking gear in my late teens and found it to work great (apart from the severe dry skin) but obviously i can't go to the doctor anymore because they will not allow me to take it whilst on gear. you see these pro's who are obviously taking bucket loads a day and they never seem to get any spots etc.

any ideas would be gratefully received.

[Elusive]

The adex will definitely help with water retention, and should also help out with the acne. Im using it now during my sust only cycle, and it has helped water retention and acne. I wouldnt say that it prevents gain, but it may slow them down a bit. Try using .25mg ed and see how that works for you.

[ARNIE83]

cheers mate.

[tzs68]

i think most of the acne is from your huge bump in dht. if you take dutasteride (avodart) you could probably minimize the acne and any potential hair loss

[ARNIE83]

apologies but what is DHT? (sorry).
Also what is dutasteride? could you enlighten me a little more please?

[tzs68]

yeah, sure. DHT is dihydrotestosterone. it is a different form of testosterone that some testosterone normally converts into. It also has a different set of cell receptors (where it acts), some of which are the biggest sources of virilization (androgenic). A high DHT level can lead to more acne, hair loss, increased body hair, and an enlarged prostate (hard to be in later life). Dutasteride (brand name avodart), just like finasteride (brand name propecia) shuts down the enzyme responsible for the test to DHT conversion. This lowers the overall DHT level and can significantly reduce many of the side effects associated with test. (note- don't take it if you're a chick though).

[samcam]

on my last cycle i was taking the following:

Monday - 250mg ethanate and 200mg Deca

Thursday - 250mg ethanate and 200mg Deca.

during that time (16 weeks) i went from 14 stone to 17 stone and experienced some pretty good strength gains E.g bench went from 220lbs to 352lbs! whilst staying pretty lean too. (I'm 5"9 tall)
obviously with the good comes the bad. I retained quite a bit of water(although not excessive) and suffered from pretty bad acne around the shoulders, lower back/lat areas and biceps.
Does taking Armidax help with the water retention and does taking it during a cycle prevent gains?
I'm a little worried as my next cycle will include Dianobol tabs as well as the same dose of ethanate and deca for the middle part of my 16 week cycle.

Also any ideas for acne prevention? I took Accutane before taking gear in my late teens and found it to work great (apart from the severe dry skin) but obviously i can't go to the doctor anymore because they will not allow me to take it whilst on gear. you see these pro's who are obviously taking bucket loads a day and they never seem to get any spots etc.

any ideas would be gratefully received.

Your bench went up 132lbs.?? Somethings definitely not right here.

[rager]

Your bench went up 132lbs.?? Somethings definitely not right here.

It can take three or more yrs to jump that much in Bench?

[ARNIE83]

I ain't bulls"£!%g you guys. thats what I'm benching for 4 reps.
I trained natural for years did my first show last year and came third, got frustrated with my placing and took steroids for the first time after being advised by a friend.

I've always been reasonably strong when lifting - 240kg deadlift - 4 reps, 200kg squat for 6 reps for example.

when i started taking gear I had finished my dieting and went from 12 stone to 16 stone in a month.

my strength went through the roof and i kept getting stronger.

I keep strict with my diet and train properly.

[PT]

hey bro what is a stone? i have heard everyone from england use the word but it means nothing to e.how much weight in pounds is 15 stones?

[shifty_git]

hey bro what is a stone? i have heard everyone from england use the word but it means nothing to e.how much weight in pounds is 15 stones?

14lb per stone

so 210 lb

[SNUKA]

so he gained 132lbs on his bench and 42lbs of body weight in 16 weeks? thats nuts

[rager]

Dude, let everyone know what Roid this is..... This is the roid of the century!!!!!!! nothing packs that kind of punch I know of !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[samcam]

Dude, let everyone know what Roid this is..... This is the roid of the century!!!!!!! nothing packs that kind of punch I know of !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want some!!

[ARNIE83]

I'll go one better guys, I'll tell you the cycle i used and the diet (gonna hold back on the supplements though - can't reveal everything!):

16 week course:
Monday - 250mg Ethanate and 200mg Deca

Thurday - 250mg Ethanate and 200mg Deca

I injected in the shoulders only.

that was it!

my diet for the week, Monday to Friday was as follows:

Meal 1
80g Oats mixed with water and teaspoon of honey.
1 chopped banana
2 scoops protein Whey

Meal 2
100g Basmati Rice
220g Chicken breast
400g Broccolli

Meal 3
large sweet Potato
220g Chicken breast
mixed salad

Meal 4 (pre workout)
2 scoop protein shake
2 banana's

meal 5 (post workout)
3 scoop protein whey
2 scoop maltodextrin

meal 6 (hour after post workout meal)
220g Chicken breast, lean steak or salmon
tablespoon of extra olive oil
stir fry vegatables - all green - 800g

meal 7
3 scoop protein Whey.

any snacks were fruit such as pineapple or Mango.

drank 4 - 6 litres mineral water.

at weekends stuck to 6 meals a day but relaxed diet and ate what i wanted - within reason!

I did no Cardio at all though.

for the first 4 weeks I had a steady increase in my strength and training intensity but then suddenly at week 5 I began to feel the gear kick in and became really strong..... quick!


before i started dieting for the show I was 16 stone, so due to the diet my body had suffered i did not struggle to add weight when the diet finished (I do admit the first week after the show i ate like an absolute mad man!).