DBOL and Creatine???

**kgrig75** · 03-11-2008, 08:38 AM

just waundering if anyone has tried it? i expect to gain water retension but i also plan to have a good pwo and cutting cycle. has anyone tried it? is it a big no no? im excited to start bulking then cuttin up so any help would be nice, thanks in advance

***El Diablo*** · 03-11-2008, 08:45 AM

Why would you like to throw the Creatine in there, the D-Bol will give you more than enough Water Retension than you'd handle. Whats ur stats?

**kgrig75** · 03-11-2008, 08:52 AM

21, 6'1, about 220. i was just waundering if anyone had tried it, and what their outcome was.

***El Diablo*** · 03-11-2008, 08:53 AM

What would you like to achieve gains wize.. ?

**kgrig75** · 03-11-2008, 09:30 AM

as much as possible, dont have a specific goal, really, im just tryin to bulk up then do a cutting cycle and get ripped. for the cutting cycle i plan on using clen /t3 and possibly some dinitrophenol (dnp )

**Paddy_Irish** · 03-11-2008, 09:53 AM

Used Dbol , Test E + Creatine + NO Explode in my first cycle 6 months ago.

I think the others are so strong that the creatine has little or no significance. I gained a huge amount within 8 weeks. My mates knew something was up!!!! loved it.
Just about to start 2nd cycle TEST E and Anavar . Roll on April.

**100m champ** · 03-11-2008, 12:36 PM

thats just stupid why would you wanna bloat up just too loose it shortly after?

**Crest** · 03-11-2008, 04:06 PM

im running creatine with omnadren and dbol for 8 weeks, creatine is a good energy supply for you muscles as well as adding the bloat ...... dnt be scared of the bloat! haha

**kgrig75** · 03-12-2008, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by 100m champ

thats just stupid why would you wanna bloat up just too loose it shortly after?

ok, research before you say something stupid again. When you bulk up you can bloat, when you lose the weight, you lose fat % not muscle (ifyou have a good PCT)

**kgrig75** · 03-12-2008, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Paddy_Irish

Used Dbol , Test E + Creatine + NO Explode in my first cycle 6 months ago.

I think the others are so strong that the creatine has little or no significance. I gained a huge amount within 8 weeks. My mates knew something was up!!!! loved it.
Just about to start 2nd cycle TEST E and Anavar. Roll on April.

thanks for the info dude, i need to take the creatine so people will think i'm gettin my gains on it and not juicin, haha. you don't have private messages yet, here is my email: [email protected] please email me or post up your email, thanks bro.

Kaden

**100m champ** · 03-12-2008, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by kgrig75

ok, research before you say something stupid again. When you bulk up you can bloat, when you lose the weight, you lose fat % not muscle (ifyou have a good PCT)

whats so stupid. D-bol only is a waste of a cycle

**ChuckLee** · 03-12-2008, 04:29 AM

This means you're going to do a Dbol only cycle...
You can, if you think you can drink winny.

CL

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

This means you're going to do a Dbol only cycle...
You can, if you think you can drink winny.

CL

the dude asks for opinions, then when he gets one he doesn't like he starts calling people stupid. guess what bud u'r not exactly sounding like an expert urself. dbol, clen , t3 and dnp at 21? so how long were u planning on running ur cycle anyway bro? what is your previous experience level?

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 05:47 AM

Can you mix the winny with your Creatine?

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Can you mix the winny with your Creatine?

u know that just might work..................................

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

u know that just might work..................................

Lol.. I dont see why it wouldnt. * Runs to the Supp shop to buy Creatine to mix with his Protein Shake*

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 06:27 AM

what about creatine, winny, t3, dnp , clen & dbol protein shake. i think i'm on to something here

i'll try it out on my 16yo cousin, see what he thinks

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 06:30 AM

... LMFAO.... good point, i actually dont know why people inject when its just so easy to take orally, the only thing that i would inject is Creatine... 1ml weekly for 14 weeks.

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 06:31 AM

.... you win! LMFAO!

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

.... you win! LMFAO!

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by kgrig75

just waundering if anyone has tried it? i expect to gain water retension but i also plan to have a good pwo and cutting cycle. has anyone tried it? is it a big no no? im excited to start bulking then cuttin up so any help would be nice, thanks in advance

seriously though bro, u should prob just stick to training hard and eating smart. creatine won't hurt, but i don't think ur gonna find anyone here recommend u start a cycle at 21 though. sorry 4 taking the piss but u kind of jumped down that other blokes throat. don't ask the question if ur not ready to accept the answer. good luck.

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

seriously though bro, u should prob just stick to training hard and eating smart. creatine won't hurt, but i don't think ur gonna find anyone here recommend u start a cycle at 21 though. sorry 4 taking the piss but u kind of jumped down that other blokes throat. don't ask the question if ur not ready to accept the answer. good luck.

Well said JBonez19!.

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Well said JBonez19!.

Why thank-you Sir El Diablo.

**ChuckLee** · 03-12-2008, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by kgrig75

ok, research before you say something stupid again. When you bulk up you can bloat, when you lose the weight, you lose fat % not muscle (ifyou have a good PCT)

Yes, but bulking on dbol only will be almost bloat only, so even with a proper PCT your weight's gonna return as before cycle.
Leave it and preserve it for a serious cycle in the future, believe me, I've tried it and I'm not telling you lies.

CL

**100m champ** · 03-12-2008, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Yes, but bulking on dbol only will be almost bloat only, so even with a proper PCT your weight's gonna return as before cycle.
Leave it and preserve it for a serious cycle in the future, believe me, I've tried it and I'm not telling you lies.

=KGRIG75^ ok research before you say something stupid again. When you bulk up you can bloat, when you lose the weight, you lose fat % not muscle
have a good PCT)

thats exacly what i was saying

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 07:21 AM

CL is lying again.

**ChuckLee** · 03-12-2008, 07:23 AM

No I love you all and couldn't tell any lie to my friends

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 07:24 AM

.. hes lying again

**kgrig75** · 03-12-2008, 07:25 AM

no a buddy of mine just got off his 8 week cycle on dbol only (no winni and only lost 10lbs. on his bench after he (deflated, haha) but yes i have winni. and i cycled test prop on a 10 week cycle and just finished about 2 weeks ago.

**ChuckLee** · 03-12-2008, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

.. hes lying again

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by kgrig75

no a buddy of mine just got off his 8 week cycle on dbol only (no winni and only lost 10lbs. on his bench after he (deflated, haha) but yes i have winni. and i cycled test prop on a 10 week cycle and just finished about 2 weeks ago.

Okay. So why do you want to "stack" Creatine and D-Bol if uve ran Test Prop Before?.. WTF?

**jbonez19** · 03-12-2008, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by kgrig75

no a buddy of mine just got off his 8 week cycle on dbol only (no winni and only lost 10lbs. on his bench after he (deflated, haha) but yes i have winni. and i cycled test prop on a 10 week cycle and just finished about 2 weeks ago.

so ur only a week into ur PCT then. how's it all going?