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03-11-2008, 03:33 PM #1
Dutasteride and DHT based steriods...Need explanation
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03-11-2008, 04:22 PM #2
Thats a good question thats bothered me. Here's why I question the effects of it. Dutasteride is a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor, that means it blocks the enzyme, 5-alpha-reductase, which prevents the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Now if your taking Winny, Primo, masteron , or anavar you are introducing DHT into the body and blocking the enzyme is meaningless. The DHT is what is causing the balding or prostrate growth. The drug, Dutasteride, doesn't block the action of the DHTs it blocks the production of it. I see no logical reason to take Dutasteride or other 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors if your taking a DHT.
Side note: you mentioned Tren , tren is a 19-nor not a DHT
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03-11-2008, 05:36 PM #3
^^ Bingo.
Taking dutasteride with a DHT would not do anything but wreck your gains from the DHT..
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03-12-2008, 12:22 AM #4Member
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I see your point kforst....but I wonder if propecia or avodart would help out at all with the test or other compounds in your cycle???
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03-12-2008, 12:52 AM #5
It only helps out with TEST
DUTA wipes out the 5-AR enzyme... which converts TEST into DHT..
TEST converts into DHT and ESTROGEN..
with DUTA.. it only converts to ESTROGEN..
so with DUTA u will have elevated levels of TEST and ESTROGEN. cause the stuff that would become DHT woudl be split between those two..
TEST can also bind to follicle receptors in your hair. It is just not as strong as DHT.. in other u might still lose hair while using DUTA.. but most do not i believe (not counting the shedding sessions, when u get on and get off)
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as far as gains go..
Your gains will still be good.. if you're only using TEST.. u might be a lil bit more soft.. cause more estrogen, and no DHT...
but since u're mentioning other compounds, that do not use 5-AR.. that means your gains will not be diminished in any way.
DUTA does not do anything to prevent hairloss from these other agents, cause they do not convert to DHT.. they just bind to the hair follicles as themselves or something completely else..
so good idea to also get like anti-adrogen shampoo for your head.
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03-12-2008, 01:04 AM #7
Nizoral 2% is your friend. Great post Pooks.
The thing that saddens about not being able to run DHT based compounds, is not getting a hard/lean look as I could have..
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03-12-2008, 04:25 AM #8
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03-12-2008, 05:14 AM #9
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03-12-2008, 05:23 AM #10
Trenbolone is a derivative of 19-Nortestosterone (Nandrolone ) and since nandrolone is a DHT derivative, so just doing 1+1 we have the game done.
CL
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03-12-2008, 10:31 AM #11
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03-12-2008, 11:03 AM #13
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03-12-2008, 03:34 PM #14Member
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Great info.....do you need a pescription for Nizoral 2%? If so can a regular doc give it you or do you need to see a dermotologist?
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03-12-2008, 04:20 PM #15
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03-12-2008, 10:33 PM #16
So why doesn't anavar usually cause hair loss if it's a dht derivative?
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Because it's not as androgenic as winstrol or masteron ...or anadrol etc.
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03-13-2008, 12:51 AM #18
I think this thread is closed. I don't see anything else that can be said on this subject.
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03-13-2008, 12:58 AM #19
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