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[frezerburn85]

Within the next 2 weeks i am going to start a cycle of Testosterone Cypionate. I was wanting to get some knowledge from someone who really knows this steriod. I have a real good diet and have been working out for 5 years. I am 6'1" 195lbs and fairly lean. I want to know what supplements to take with it, and how much of each besides protein, no2, and other essentials. What should i do when i get off? i plan on only taking 200-300mgs a week. I want to take this as safely as possible

[RapaciousShark]

ok good. Do you know what a PCT is? If you're gonna do a cycle, do it right - at least 400mgs/week bro. just my opinion.

But you gotta research man, check out our PCT forum and check out all the anti-E profiles. Do you have any ant-estrogens?? There';s alot you still need to know, but it's good you are researching before pinning yourself.

[frezerburn85]

i know about pcp's i planned on taking novadex when i finish. I was really wondering what to take during it, im not sure if a liver support is needed its not a pill or a 17a compound, but maybe im wrong. is there anything else really needed?

[kaberle_15]

How old are you man? You may want to include more to your pct, 200-300mg is on the low side you can bump that up to 500mg/week .

[frezerburn85]

I want to stay as safe as i can, i just turned 22 and have hit a platue. Im looking to gain about 10 more pounds. if i can take 400-500mg a week and stay safe i am all for it. Would like to refrain from getting acne, gyne, or any other side effects that can come from it. I plan on taking it for 4-6 weeks. A friend of mine took 200mgs a week for 6 weeks and gained 10 pounds. Thats why i came up with the low figure of 200-300mgs a week

[CheddaNips]

bump to 400-500 but use an Ai and you should see some lean gains. At least 15lbs. Diet is the key. If that is in check then 10lbs is easily attainable

[RapaciousShark]

bump to 400-500 but use an Ai and you should see some lean gains. At least 15lbs. Diet is the key. If that is in check then 10lbs is easily attainable

Cheddaaaaa. dude I never fail to stop and admire arnold in your avy. Love it.

[frezerburn85]

sorry this is probably a dumb question. im new at this, but what does Ai mean. i looked at the abbreviation list and didnt see it

[kaberle_15]

It takes 4-6 weeks for test c to kick in man, I suggest you do it longer and acne comes with test for some people.

[soccer#3]

AI=aromatise inhibitor. u should really take these 2 weeks to familiarize urself wit what doin a cycle means

[frezerburn85]

i will deal with side effects as they come, knowing that they probably will..... but what about the effects on my liver or other part of the body from one cycle, is drinking alchol a no no on this?

[frezerburn85]

aromatise inhibitor? whatr product is that? doesnt that block estrogen, isnt that what novadex is?

[soccer#3]

i wouldnt worry about the liver. u gonna feel horny as fucc i can tell u that right now. and definitely stay away from alcohol while ur on and during pct.

[soccer#3]

aromatise inhibitor? whatr product is that? doesnt that block estrogen, isnt that what novadex is?

like i said bro, take time to familiarize urself. hit up the pct section and read the stickies. u'll find all the answers there

[frezerburn85]

alright thanks, ill check it out pronto

[MudflapsMcGee]

Stick with your low dose, to be safe, and get more of a PCT plan going, if you want to keep your gains and not get depressed. Remember to taper off the gear and don't end it cold turkey at full dose. Be smart about it. I tapered off and used Nolvadex after my first cycle and I still crashed pretty hard, although I was taking more gear than you.
I think most juicers take WAY too much, cuz they are looking for the buzz and the rush (libido trip)... that's a good way to get addicted and get stretch marks have everybody notice your on the shit.
I'm able to gain 2lbs muscle a week from 5mg daily of oral Anavar. And people talk about taking 50mg+. I'm having to restrict calories because I don't want to gain any more weight. Probably no side effects and minimal PCT needed. Less can be more.

[frezerburn85]

does it sound like a good idea to just taper off on the last week, maybe a 100 or 200mgs or taper off 100mgs each of the last two weeks? and should i start my pcp the last week of my cycle or wait till the very end?

[MudflapsMcGee]

I'm no expert but I'd say at least do the last 2 weeks at 100mg and start PCT on the last week.

[NATE0406]

does it sound like a good idea to just taper off on the last week, maybe a 100 or 200mgs or taper off 100mgs each of the last two weeks? and should i start my pcp the last week of my cycle or wait till the very end?

there is no need to taper at the end of your cycle. your last injection should be the same as your first.. and dont start your pct untill two weeks after you last injection. you got a lot more reading to do bro. good luck.

[soccer#3]

there is no need to taper at the end of your cycle. your last injection should be the same as your first.. and dont start your pct untill two weeks after you last injection. you got a lot more reading to do bro. good luck.

see posts 10 and 14

im outta here... good night people

[duggadoo]

i wouldnt taper stay consistent (you dont want your hormones to flux that brings more sides) and then start pct a week after you last injection

[VTliftVT]

This was metioned earlier but definitely run that cycle for 10 weeks, you will be plenty happy with that length. As mentioned, it can take between 2 and 4 weeks before the test really kicks in and your gains are noticeable.

AI's are not the same as nolvadex, which is an anti-estrogen. It simply blocks the bodys ability to utilize estrogen were AI's actually eliminate the estrogen from the body (in laymen terms). AI's are good to keep on hand when you are running a cycle in case gyno pops its ugly head out. Nolvadex on hand can help that as well obviously but has its place in PCT more so.

I would also listen to these guys and run minimum 400mg/week. Shoot twice weekly at 200mg on Monday and Thursday. This will keep your blood levels of test more constant and also help keep water gain to a minimum. Don't taper either.

As far as sides go, you should be able to get an idea right now to how you will respond. I haven't had acne for example but in minimal amts and I have never broken out on a cycle. I also am not gyno prone so that's never been a worry. Hair loss = no. Agressiveness....ummm...well with tren but thats not test. Basically people are affected differently and you just have to jump in and find out. Have all of the precautionary items in place such as an AI or Anit E and go to town.

Read up, eat, lift, sleep, grow, repeat.