how long before starting gear

[luxur]

I read this post, and was surprised it didnt get more action.

I am not a no - it -all but i am 40 and thow i have only done a couple of cycles through myi life I think the two year weight lifting before a cycle is a bit much, I know pleanty of guys that started a cycle after a month or two of hard lifting and got awesome gains.

[ChuckLee]

If I saw that before, I'd surely said something...
But fortunately this is the first time I read a crap like that, and hope nobody would even remotely believe those words. This is one of the baddest things a noob can find here.
Anyway, before starting any gear one should consider to have reached his natural potential first, either in diet or training.

CL

[jbonez19]

If I saw that before, I'd surely said something...
But fortunately this is the first time I read a crap like that, and hope nobody would even remotely believe those words. This is one of the baddest things a noob can find here.
Anyway, before starting any gear one should consider to have reached his natural potential first, either in diet or training.

CL

why wait a month. why not jump on the juice b4 starting training. kind of like a head start like.... that's what Mr. Chuck PM'd me and said to try. he's a big liar.

[luxur]

If I saw that before, I'd surely said something...
But fortunately this is the first time I read a crap like that, and hope nobody would even remotely believe those words. This is one of the baddest things a noob can find here.
Anyway, before starting any gear one should consider to have reached his natural potential first, either in diet or training.

CL

COME ON!!!!! yes thats what i was aiming for my self when i started training almost 20 years ago. have you seen my picture? I never got to that perfect for gear body, i know for a fact 99% dont get to their full natural potential before using gear.

Sometime you guys give advice you wish you had followed, but deep down know youd do it again same way

[ChuckLee]

why wait a month. why not jump on the juice b4 starting training. kind of like a head start like.... that's what Mr. Chuck PM'd me and said to try. he's a big liar.

I did that because I wanted to make you hurting your self...I'd bask on that!

[ChuckLee]

COME ON!!!!! yes thats what i was aiming for my self when i started training almost 20 years ago. have you seen my picture? I never got to that perfect for gear body, i know for a fact 99% dont get to their full natural potential before using gear.

Sometime you guys give advice you wish you had followed, but deep down know youd do it again same way

This is due to your errors on diet and training, not for the lack of steroids that you've not reached your potential.
I've seen your pics. 20 years of trainig what???
Please be more realistic.

CL

[*El Diablo*]

This is due to your errors on diet and training, not for the lack of steroids that you've not reached your potential.
I've seen your pics. 20 years of trainig what???
Please be more realistic.

CL

.... CL is having Roid Rage. I think ur gonna kill your Girlfriend soon

[ChuckLee]

I hope not...they don't sell gears in jail.

[MASTER]

That kind of advice makes me want to hurt someone. 2 years is probably a good amount of time, but it comes down more to knowledge of training, drugs and diet more than amount of time training. There are guys that have been training 10 years and still know nothing and then jump on a cycle and mess themselves up.

[*El Diablo*]

But Some people can just not be aducated no matter how long they on this board.

[luxur]

This is due to your errors on diet and training, not for the lack of steroids that you've not reached your potential.
I've seen your pics. 20 years of trainig what???
Please be more realistic.

CL

Was nothing wrong with my training and diet WHEN i did do it, i have no shape because i lack COMMITMENT i started lifting when i was 16, then stopped then on and off again until now i started again after 3 years of junkfood and sedentarity. but whatever.

MastaAce That kind of advice makes me want to hurt someone. 2 years is probably a good amount of time, but it comes down more to knowledge of training, drugs and diet more than amount of time training. There are guys that have been training 10 years and still know nothing and then jump on a cycle and mess themselves up.

I was thinking the same thing, wanted to know if anyone did too