TRT and cycle question

[VTliftVT]

24/205/10%/approx 10 cycles
(also posted earlier in HRT forum without much input, more views here, hopefully more insight)


This may be a little long winded but I would greatly appreciate a little insight from those experienced in this situation.

I have just recently been diagnosed with low test levels due to pituitary problems. I was given Test E @ 200mg every 2 weeks which I have split into 100mg/week.

The last cycle I ran I wound up at around 230 on the scale and literally lost everything I put on due to what I would find out later as low test. I also put on a little more body fat because of the same problem and I would really like to run another cycle.

week 1-4 = dbol 40mg/day
week 1-12 = test e 500mg/weeek
week 1-12 = EQ @ 400mg/week
week 1-12 = arimidex .25mg/EOD for water retention purposes

PCT question below.

My question is this. After the said cycle takes place what would be the best PCT (arimidex, nolva, clomid, HCG on hand)? In the past I ran an AI and nolva clomid. Should I go with the same or would things be different due to the pituitary problem?

Second question: I know that long cycles of test will eventually cause sexual dysfunction. After I run this cycle I would continue to run the 100mg of Test E every week I would assume. Will this eventually cause sexual dysfunction to occur? Also, would this amount of test be enough to help keep my gains as well?

Thanks for all of your input.

[PT]

24/205/10%/approx 10 cycles
(also posted earlier in HRT forum without much input, more views here, hopefully more insight)


This may be a little long winded but I would greatly appreciate a little insight from those experienced in this situation.

I have just recently been diagnosed with low test levels due to pituitary problems. I was given Test E @ 200mg every 2 weeks which I have split into 100mg/week.

The last cycle I ran I wound up at around 230 on the scale and literally lost everything I put on due to what I would find out later as low test. I also put on a little more body fat because of the same problem and I would really like to run another cycle.

week 1-4 = dbol 40mg/day
week 1-12 = test e 500mg/weeek
week 1-12 = EQ @ 400mg/week
week 1-12 = arimidex .25mg/EOD for water retention purposes

PCT question below.

My question is this. After the said cycle takes place what would be the best PCT (arimidex, nolva, clomid, HCG on hand)? In the past I ran an AI and nolva clomid. Should I go with the same or would things be different due to the pituitary problem?

Second question: I know that long cycles of test will eventually cause sexual dysfunction. After I run this cycle I would continue to run the 100mg of Test E every week I would assume. Will this eventually cause sexual dysfunction to occur? Also, would this amount of test be enough to help keep my gains as well?

Thanks for all of your input.

you wont need apct bro, after your cycle you can just jump back on your perscribed dose of test. as for sexual problems, i have run some very long cycles and i never had a single problem like that.

[VTliftVT]

you wont need apct bro, after your cycle you can just jump back on your perscribed dose of test. as for sexual problems, i have run some very long cycles and i never had a single problem like that.

so is this because the lower dose of TRT still shuts down my natural production (even though its very low)? so no reason to get that jump started i assume? and will the low dose of test still keep gyno from forming even as the amount that i take would probably equal what the normal persons test levels are at?

[Njord]

so is this because the lower dose of TRT still shuts down my natural production (even though its very low)? so no reason to get that jump started i assume? and will the low dose of test still keep gyno from forming even as the amount that i take would probably equal what the normal persons test levels are at?

You are correct. With TRT your natural production will be shut down as long as you continue to take exogenous testosterone. .
Did your doctor not try to diagnose the underlying cause for the low test? I can't imagine he would just put you on trt at 24 years of age.
What's your prior cycle experience? Did you do pct?

[VTliftVT]

You are correct. With TRT your natural production will be shut down as long as you continue to take exogenous testosterone. .
Did your doctor not try to diagnose the underlying cause for the low test? I can't imagine he would just put you on trt at 24 years of age.
What's your prior cycle experience? Did you do pct?

My pituitary is not functioning properly, I have an MRI scheduled. I have done multiple cycles both cutters and bulkers and all with proper PCT. HCG was even included on my last cycle due to the large amount of test and 14 week cycle (longest I had ran to that pt, most were 8-10week).

[Njord]

Duhh. I read your post and forgot about your pituitary problem while typing my response.

[VTliftVT]

Duhh. I read your post and forgot about your pituitary problem while typing my response.

so just to make 100% sure. no use to run clomid, nolva, HCG or anything to that manner after this bulker and i wont have to worry about gyno? im not gyno prone so thats a good start, but i guess what will keep me from getting gyno because estrogen i assume will still be building up (i do plan on running arimidex at .25mg/EOD to keep bloat off.

[Njord]

so just to make 100% sure. no use to run clomid, nolva, HCG or anything to that manner after this bulker and i wont have to worry about gyno? im not gyno prone so thats a good start, but i guess what will keep me from getting gyno because estrogen i assume will still be building up (i do plan on running arimidex at .25mg/EOD to keep bloat off.

Like pietro said, there is no need for you to do pct if you are going back on your trt dosage after cycle.
While on cycle, you will have to worry about gyno just like anybody else. You say your not prone, so you should know best, but there is always a chance.

I would postpone the cycle until you get your medical issue sorted out. No need to mess things up even more.

[VTliftVT]

Like pietro said, there is no need for you to do pct if you are going back on your trt dosage after cycle.
While on cycle, you will have to worry about gyno just like anybody else. You say your not prone, so you should know best, but there is always a chance.

I would postpone the cycle until you get your medical issue sorted out. No need to mess things up even more.

I agree, I have the appt soon and will not do anything until I find the cause. I will definitely be ready to hop back on the train though once this is sorted out and wanted to get as much info as possible before hand. Thanks a lot for your responces!