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    Injection will not enter??

    Hey for some reason I inject into my right arm delt and it will not take in the pin, So I go over to the left and it flys in and everything is good..?

    Is this maybe cause I am enter to much.. or just me beeing messed, this is the 2nd time this happen,.

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    rotate injection sites. use the rear delt, front, and side, and go in on different angles.

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    The muscle is heavily scarred. You've been getting a lot bleeding injections lately I assume as well...

    You need to use a different area - such as glutes, quads or whatever.

    Plus, switching the draw pin with a fresh (possibly smaller) injection pin can help. For instance, draw with a 21, but inject with a fresh 23.

    Try and minimize movement while injecting as well - pulling back and forth will increase scarring.

    Training a muscle right after injecting is likely to increase scar tissue formation as well... it's prolly best to inject right before bed, let the oil go in and the site rest from the onslaught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior View Post

    The muscle is heavily scarred. You've been getting a lot bleeding injections lately I assume as well...(NOT TO MUCH BLEEDING BUT OTHER SITE ARE ALWAYS FINE)

    You need to use a different area - such as glutes, quads or whatever.i USE MY GLUTE, I want to do my quads but I am working with my legs alot so don't want to try it yet, wait for a long weekend

    Plus, switching the draw pin with a fresh (possibly smaller) injection pin can help. For instance, draw with a 21, but inject with a fresh 23.I always use a flesh pin, Delt/Bicep 25 1in, Glute and *Quads* 23 1.5in

    Try and minimize movement while injecting as well - pulling back and forth will increase scarring.My pin is barely moving, plus I inject slow *i think* 30-45sec per 250mg test c?

    Training a muscle right after injecting is likely to increase scar tissue formation as well... it's prolly best to inject right before bed, let the oil go in and the site rest from the onslaught.Well SOMETIMES I will do it after a workout after the shower never before, But I will work that area sometime within 24-72hr at the gym?
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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    Hey for some reason I inject into my right arm delt and it will not take in the pin, So I go over to the left and it flys in and everything is good..?

    Is this maybe cause I am enter to much.. or just me beeing messed, this is the 2nd time this happen,.
    I have noticed a couple of spots where I have to put a lot of pressure to get the needle through the skin and into the muscle.
    Have noticed this in my pecs (which I don't inject a lot) and on my quads where I do inject a lot. I'm guessing this is scar tissue build-up. Time to find some new sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord View Post
    I have noticed a couple of spots where I have to put a lot of pressure to get the needle through the skin and into the muscle.
    Have noticed this in my pecs (which I don't inject a lot) and on my quads where I do inject a lot. I'm guessing this is scar tissue build-up. Time to find some new sites.
    The pin will always go i, just sometime it will come out as I injected????

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    The pin will always go i, just sometime it will come out as I injected????
    Weird. Never had that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    The pin will always go i, just sometime it will come out as I injected????
    The pin comes out as you inject or the oil/water comes out as you inject?
    Last edited by Nstart; 03-16-2008 at 03:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    The pin will always go i, just sometime it will come out as I injected????
    How would it? I really don't understand, you push the pin in, some spots are tougher than others, and you hold it steady and in place till the injection is finished.

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    i can only think of dull needle which you have eliminated as an issue or massive amounts of scar tissue due to excessive jabbing. but maybe your deltoid is a soldier and fights back. maybe you should leave that fighter alone. plenty of other spots you have no issues with.

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    Well for me it only happens with my one delt on the right, any other area like bi/left delt/Glute all work fine. And the right always did to and one day I guess I hit a nerve or something and it came popping out, today I did it again and once I start to inject it wanted to push itself out, I aspirated it and once I took it out I looked and their was little spots of blood, but at the time the blood didn't come on aspirate, Anyways It is weird to me as much it is to you...

    Just hoping other had anything like this go on...

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    sorry no help here, never ran into this before.

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    MMM ya only stuff like this happens to me then, oh well I was just checking around, I am find I can hit up the bi or ti on the right side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    MMM ya only stuff like this happens to me then, oh well I was just checking around, I am find I can hit up the bi or ti on the right side.
    why not just rotate delts, glutes, quads?

    are you pinning yourself ed?

    from what i remember about you, you havent even done many cycles, so you shouldnt be having lots of problems with scar tissue unless your injection technique sucks or you arent rotating sites at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    The pin will always go i, just sometime it will come out as I injected????
    Seriously, this sounds like a build up of pressure from local scarring - if you knick a blood vessel, the delts should bleed easy for the same reason. Just forget about injecting delts for awhile... let it heal.

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    well I am changing it up it and I give it atless 2 weeks before I get to that area again, And my injected got to be good or It would not be growing, I never get redness or anything bad, just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-roller View Post
    well I am changing it up it and I give it atless 2 weeks before I get to that area again, And my injected got to be good or It would not be growing, I never get redness or anything bad, just that.
    An area that gets heavily scarred won't normally turn red and get warm. If it does turn red, warm, and start to swell a lot, that's either a simple irritation or a possibly more severe infection. Scarring is normal when you are constantly pushing a pin in and out of a muscle... you just need to rotate sites and take necessary precautions. But an area that turns red, warm to the touch and inflammed is not normal...

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    This happened to me several times. I don't know if there is a medical explanation is, but I think it is spasms form the nerve, or a reflex. I've actually had an instance where I stuck it in and started to push and my muscle twitched and shot the needle 3ft from my arm. I don't have a lot of scar tissue and I uses fresh tips.

    just try relaxing your arm, or have someone else doit on that particular shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxex View Post
    This happened to me several times. I don't know if there is a medical explanation is, but I think it is spasms form the nerve, or a reflex. I've actually had an instance where I stuck it in and started to push and my muscle twitched and shot the needle 3ft from my arm. I don't have a lot of scar tissue and I uses fresh tips.

    just try relaxing your arm, or have someone else doit on that particular shoulder.

    Ya that is what this may be I relax my arm but the position my arm is may be causing it from coming out. Well thanks for the help, I will give it time to rest up I am only a few shot till the end of cycle, so I will leave it alone maybe one on that side but the bicep. Anyways Thanks!

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