First cycle test e

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 11:49 AM

ok im just about ready to do my first cycle im 29 6.4" 225lb i think my bf is 18% to 20% but not sure...

im going to do a test e cycle

weeks 1-12 500mg/test e 2 times a week
weeks 7-12 50 mg/winstrol ed

pct from pheedno's pct
weeks 16-20 .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

im going to order the L-dex , Clomid and Nolva ar-r -com be for I order I just want to make sure i dont need to order anything else?

my buddy said I should get some thing to help with the bloating im not sure if I trust him when it comes to this aas hes only done 1 cycle him self...
do I need some thing for bloating?
thanks guys for your help....

**VTliftVT** · 03-17-2008, 12:06 PM

you should have no real problem with bloating. you will hold a little water but just monitor your sodium/sugar intake. once you hit the winstrol that will help you out a lot there as well.

definitely get your pct before you start your cycle as well. worst case scenario is your feel you are holding too much water and you could throw in arimidex @ .25mg/EOD which will help shed some water. i wouldnt choose that route however because you want some estrogen otherwise you will hinder your gains somewhat. just keep sodium low and you should be fine.

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 12:18 PM

Im ordering it today
Im not starting anything intel I have everything

**RANA** · 03-17-2008, 01:45 PM

I agree with VT, you should not have much problems with bloating on this cycle.
PCT: You might want to scale down, i.e....
week 1 clomid 100mg nolva 40mg
week 2 clomid 50mg nolva 40mg
week 3-5 clomid 50mg nolva 20mg.
IMHO

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 03:57 PM

if all i can get is test prop is that going to work as good for this cycle?

**VWbug66** · 03-17-2008, 03:59 PM

yeah ull just be injecting every day or eod..if you cant get enanthate can u get cyp?

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 04:07 PM

my guy said he has some test p now...
should I wait and see if he can get me some test e or test c?
he said it might be 3 or 4 weeks to get test e or test c and he's not sure he can get right now..

**intracoastal** · 03-17-2008, 04:52 PM

500 twice a week may be high for a first time user. My first cycle was 500/week and a saw incredible gains. Take it you are a big boy for starters, but 1g/week is what most would take after a few cycles. just my 2cents

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by intracoastal

500 twice a week may be high for a first time user. My first cycle was 500/week and a saw incredible gains. Take it you are a big boy for starters, but 1g/week is what most would take after a few cycles. just my 2cents

Im meant to say 250/ 2 times a week like monday and thursday....

should I wait and see if he can get me some test e or test c or just stick with the test p that he has?

**samcam** · 03-17-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by mkcay7979

Im meant to say 250/ 2 times a week like monday and thursday....

should I wait and see if he can get me some test e or test c or just stick with the test p that he has?

For a first cycle I would wait until you can get some Test E or C, I don't think you will want to pin ED or EOD for the first time.

**legobricks** · 03-17-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by samcam

For a first cycle I would wait until you can get some Test E or C, I don't think you will want to pin ED or EOD for the first time.

^^^ Agreed. Some people get discouraged with the pain that prop can bring and doing that ED or EOD can be very annoying.

Now about your stats, 18-20% the winstrol would be a complete waste as you wont really see the results unless your a lower BF%. On top of that try to drop your BF% a bit before starting (while your waiting for the enanthate ) this is due to health reasons. U sure your that high of BF%?

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 06:24 PM

thanks lego thats what i was thinking waiting for the test e or test c witch ever one my guy can get ...
as far as the BF % I really don't know what I'm at I was just guess in ....whats the best way to find the bf % out?

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 06:30 PM

I found a BF Calculator it said 16-18%

**legobricks** · 03-17-2008, 06:53 PM

Have you used one of those electronic deals that you hold?

Can you see your abs?

Do you have a gut?

You can look at physical aspects to guess better then those (im assuming online) BF% calculators.

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 07:21 PM

I cant see my abs ..

I do have a gut not a big one ...

it was a online calculator tomorrow when I go to the gym I will ask them if they can tell me what my bf is...

**legobricks** · 03-17-2008, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by mkcay7979

I cant see my abs ..

I do have a gut not a big one ...

it was a online calculator tomorrow when I go to the gym I will ask them if they can tell me what my bf is...

Do that. But stick to what you were thinking; Dropping some BF% before you start the cycle.

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 07:47 PM

thanks lego...
its going to take at least 30 days to get the test
so for the next 60 days its going to be lots cardio to drop some bf before my cycle..
I will also cut out the winn for now and do a test only cycle and i ordered my pct today
hope fully in 60days of hard work i can be down to 15%bf

**VWbug66** · 03-17-2008, 08:18 PM

yup!! ur good to go bro

**Ashop** · 03-17-2008, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by mkcay7979

ok im just about ready to do my first cycle im 29 6.4" 225lb i think my bf is 18% to 20% but not sure...

im going to do a test e cycle

weeks 1-12 500mg/test e 2 times a week
weeks 7-12 50 mg/winstrol ed

pct from pheedno's pct
weeks 16-20 .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

im going to order the L-dex , Clomid and Nolva ar-r -com be for I order I just want to make sure i dont need to order anything else?

my buddy said I should get some thing to help with the bloating im not sure if I trust him when it comes to this aas hes only done 1 cycle him self...
do I need some thing for bloating?
thanks guys for your help....

honestly,,,not a bad cycle at all.

**juicedapple463** · 03-17-2008, 08:30 PM

cycle looks solid with test e or cyp, hit the cardio hard, diet clean for the 60 days and see where your at.

**mkcay7979** · 03-17-2008, 09:00 PM

thanks guys cant wait to go to the gym tomorrow?

**RANA** · 03-18-2008, 09:15 AM

Good luck

**mkcay7979** · 04-03-2008, 11:42 PM

well im down to 218lb with tons of cardio and a good diet...
Im trying to get every thing in so i can start my first cycle in 30days or so...

my guy cant get any test e or test c right now but he can get me some sustanon 250
is this going to be for a first cycle?
how many shots a week would i need to take?
thanks everyone for your help

**ChuckLee** · 04-04-2008, 01:07 AM

Agree with others, since winstrol works way better when you have an already low bf.

CL

**automatic** · 04-04-2008, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by mkcay7979

well im down to 218lb with tons of cardio and a good diet...
Im trying to get every thing in so i can start my first cycle in 30days or so...

my guy cant get any test e or test c right now but he can get me some sustanon 250
is this going to be for a first cycle?
how many shots a week would i need to take?
thanks everyone for your help

take 2 shots per week mon-thur.total 500mg ew