TREN / Masteron cycle question

**coco06** · 03-19-2008, 07:47 AM

I only want to do cycles that dont convert to estrogen. Therefore i was thinking of doing a summer cutting cycle of tren acetate 300mg and week and 600mg of mastaron a week. I was considering proviron at 25mg a day.
Is this a bad cycle, and will masteron keep me from shutting down the way test cyp,or ethanate does. Im also doing hgh cycle at 6iu a day with and t4. Im at the end of my 4th month on gh

**longhorn814** · 03-19-2008, 08:09 AM

the tren will shut you down hard..masteron isnt gonna stop that..personally I suggest a low dose of prop along with mast/tren..thats my fav cycle!!!

**JAY_WD** · 03-19-2008, 05:06 PM

I agree run prop, at 50mg ED. This will be enough to replace your natural test levels without aromatizing too much.

**jackdup04** · 03-19-2008, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

the tren will shut you down hard..masteron isnt gonna stop that..personally I suggest a low dose of prop along with mast/tren..thats my fav cycle!!!

agreed...runnin' tren A,mast,prop,eq one of my fave's... Personally i like runnin' sum form of test wit everythn'...

**one8nine** · 03-19-2008, 06:56 PM

tren will stimulate your progesterone receptors
this will cause elevated estrogen
for all intensive purposes thats just as good as converting to estrogen

your LH feedback look shuts your HPTA down, not estrogen
estrogenic side effects are associated to shut down because strong AAS will feed into the loop more quickly, along with other things causing suppression and shut down
strong AAS also normally has strong estrogenic side effects

for a first cycle a lot of people will say tren and masteron are too much, i personally am not so conservative, but i do believe testosterone should be included in every cycle

tren will probably shut you down more than test will, by the way.
look up hcg , proviron , aromasin , and nolvadex , you should be fine.

**39+1** · 03-19-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by coco06

I only want to do cycles that dont convert to estrogen. Therefore i was thinking of doing a summer cutting cycle of tren acetate 300mg and week and 600mg of mastaron a week. I was considering proviron at 25mg a day.
Is this a bad cycle, and will masteron keep me from shutting down the way test cyp,or ethanate does. Im also doing hgh cycle at 6iu a day with and t4. Im at the end of my 4th month on gh

run some test with that

**JackBauer** · 03-19-2008, 09:40 PM

dont mean to butt in coco... but i too am putting together a spring cycle very similar... would Tren A as opposed to Tren E (which i already have) make much of a difference? I hear sides are more prevalent in the E but just thought Id ask...

**football2007** · 03-20-2008, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

tren will stimulate your progesterone receptors
this will cause elevated estrogen
for all intensive purposes thats just as good as converting to estrogen

your LH feedback look shuts your HPTA down, not estrogen
estrogenic side effects are associated to shut down because strong AAS will feed into the loop more quickly, along with other things causing suppression and shut down
strong AAS also normally has strong estrogenic side effects

for a first cycle a lot of people will say tren and masteron are too much, i personally am not so conservative, but i do believe testosterone should be included in every cycle

tren will probably shut you down more than test will, by the way.
look up hcg, proviron, aromasin, and nolvadex, you should be fine.

how does one drug shut you down more than another?

When I think of shutdown, I think of complete cessation of endogenous testosterone. Both achieve this.

Tren does not have any estrogenic side effects..however it does stimulate the PR quite a bit like you noted..don't know where you got that this in turn will elevate estrogen??

**Elexecution** · 03-20-2008, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

the tren will shut you down hard..masteron isnt gonna stop that..personally I suggest a low dose of prop along with mast/tren..thats my fav cycle!!!

do you mix them all in one shot?

**JackBauer** · 03-20-2008, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

do you mix them all in one shot?

as long as their oils

**hugovsilva** · 03-20-2008, 12:28 AM

I mix water based also.

**Cuttup** · 03-20-2008, 12:36 AM

Good.yeah..throw some Prop in there.

**longhorn814** · 03-20-2008, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

do you mix them all in one shot?

i have before, but i prefer to use blends..less injection volume

**intracoastal** · 03-20-2008, 09:20 AM

using tren E right now and having no sides besides the sleeping....it all depends on the amount taken. I start LOW to see how my body reacts and then increase. Too many young newbies start with what a bodybuilder would use....DON"T!!!! My first TEST cycle was 250/week and I blew up...My first TREN E cycle was 200/week and I'm loving the results. Did I mention almost NO sides at these low levels.