Dbol/Winny PCT

[1luv]

I am currently on a dbol/winny "experimental" cycle (i know most will flame, please dont) and have nolva and Letro for PCT. I want to run a fairly aggressive PCT because I have done some mediocre PCT in the past and think I have hurt my natural Test levels and want them to get back up.

What would people recommend for PCT? I am afraid of the letro and the estrogen effects it can have. I also have Myogenx since my sex drive is AWFUL.

[Big]

I don't think the lack of answers for the same question you posted in the pct section was because of the section it was in, I think it's because not many people do dbol/winny cycles.

[testosterona]

this is what id do:
wk1 HCG 750ius' eod
wk1-2 nolva 40mgs wk3-6 20mgs nolva
wk1-6 .25mgs adex

hope this helps

test

[football2007]

Nolva and Letro is a bad choice IMO.

When you don't have aromatizing compounds in your system, there is absolutely no need for letro. Also, letro has an effect on nolva's ability to bind to the ER

[1luv]

so wouldnt adex have the same effect as the letro?

Also, i understand not many people having done that type of cycle, but im looking more to recover my test levels from previous cycles (test e, EQ, test c) in which i havent done very agressive or even acceptable PCT.

[football2007]

Really the only AI that doesn't counteract with nolva is aromasin

This is my favorite PCT. Doses and lengths are TBD depending on the duration of a cycle...compounds used, length of suppression etc etc

low dose aromasin, moderate following into low dose clomid, standard dose of toremifene (my favorite ) Maybe some longjack throw in the mix or following the above...

I like running HCG leading into PCT...but I don't see it necessary for dbol/winny

If you were trying to recover your endogenous test from previous cycles, I would lay off AAS alltogether for a few months. A common misperpection is after 4 weeks of PCT you are completely recovered. I really don't believe this to be the case.

[1luv]

so nolva 20mg ED and aromasin at what dose? You said "low dose". Also, how long would you recommend? Thanks.

[1luv]

and would not recommend the classic nolva/clomid? Rather, nolva/liquidex?

[football2007]

Notice I said toremifene, not nolva. Toremifene improves lipid profiles and is more effective than tamoxifen (nolva)

Also it is not a carcinogen, like nolva.

As I stated above, nolva and liquidex counteract. I outlayed a good pct above.

The doses and length would be up to you.

Something like

1-4 Toremifene 60mg
1-4 aromasin 25mg E3D
1-4 clomid 25mg

The above may not even be necessary, you won't be totally shut down with those two orals. You could probably get away with three weeks of the above.