i just dont think 2 compounds is enough.

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 02:37 PM

okay at first i was going to run decca/dbol /test then decided decca stays in you for way to long. so then was just goin to stick with dbol/test. for some reason i have this felling that it not going to be strong enough. so now im leaning towards test e/eq/dbol.
is that a good one or what?

**Amorphic** · 03-22-2008, 02:39 PM

if you are worried about the long ester in deca , why not try npp? it is the same compound (nandrolone ) with a phenylpropionate base. works faster, clears out faster and is better overall imo.

im not a fan of eq from what i read and hear, seems to be a waste for the price.

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 02:43 PM

so if i switch to a short ester in deca i have to switch to short ester in test and drop the dbol right.

**Amorphic** · 03-22-2008, 02:44 PM

you could run prop and npp. do ed injects or eod if you want.

what were your stats again?

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

you could run prop and npp. do ed injects or eod if you want.

what were your stats again?

22yrs 6'1 255 16 bf.
scratch that bro thats not going to work eithor i just looked it up and npp is till in system for too long. 12 months

**Amorphic** · 03-22-2008, 02:51 PM

are you concerned about drug tests etc? or just not a fan of a suppressive ester floating around in you?

what are your goals for this cycle as well?

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 02:53 PM

i am going for 20 to 25lbs. yea im worried about drug testing. is thier another good mass building substance to go with test e

PT · 03-22-2008, 02:54 PM

i personally dont like eq that much for bulking but i think it is the most underated steroid for cutting. eq works wonders on me when cutting and i try to throw it in every cutting cycle now

**Schmidty** · 03-22-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by intensityfreak

okay at first i was going to run decca/dbol /test then decided decca stays in you for way to long. so then was just goin to stick with dbol/test. for some reason i have this felling that it not going to be strong enough. so now im leaning towards test e/eq/dbol.
is that a good one or what?

WHAT??? Eqs in ur system longer then deca ...

**Amorphic** · 03-22-2008, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Schmidty

WHAT??? Eqs in ur system longer then deca...

deca is 18 months detection time.

i forget what eq is.

**Schmidty** · 03-22-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

deca is 18 months detection time.

i forget what eq is.

OH!!! detection time, i thought he ment duration it keeps u supressed. Id assume eq is still longer though...

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Schmidty

WHAT??? Eqs in ur system longer then deca...

yea what are you talkin about, in the forums detectin time for eq is 6months and decca is 18 and npp is 12

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 03:10 PM

uh is anyone going to shout out some idea's of alternate gear i could use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Schmidty** · 03-22-2008, 03:14 PM

u could try a short cycle of prop, npp, dbol . Id be like a test, deca , dbol cycle but it gets really annoying sticking urself ed or eod

BG · 03-22-2008, 03:18 PM

How many cycles have you ran? Why do you think two compounds arent enough? Does more juice mean more gains......no. Ive ran high dosage cycles w/many compounds and yes while on your have more water retention so you think your getting more, but all in all its your diet , training and rest. One of the greats told me.....Less Is More......and he was so right.

**Overhaulz** · 03-22-2008, 03:25 PM

Why not just some Prop and Dbol if you want short detection times then? I know you said you wanted three compounds as you didn't think two was enough, but I didn't see you mention anywhere if you've cycled before.

If this is your first, you'll gain plenty of strength and size and don't need three compounds. (Sorry if you did mention if you've cycled before and I missed it).

Also, bump what TRD said as he posted before I saw it.

**naturalsux** · 03-22-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by intensityfreak

uh is anyone going to shout out some idea's of alternate gear i could use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

test/winny instead of the dbol .

test/anadrol is what i would run.

i dont know what else to tell you. mast isnt really a good choice.

you could run a long ester test and short ester npp, but you said that was out of the question.

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 03:40 PM

yea i have cycled before, but it was a rip off. not even sure if it was real didnt see ant sinificant gains, i was a moron back then it was 2 years ago. i ran test e for 5wks and eq for 5 wks. and they charged me 300$ for those 2 1ml bottles. yea i learned my lesson. it was all messed up to. one of the bottled had winny crossed out on it and eq written under it. yea i know i wasw stupid. like alot of college kids who want a quick fix and think its simple as injectingt and just bieng done. since i joined this bored i have helped alot of poeple at my school who could have killed themselves. so thanks steroid .com

**Overhaulz** · 03-22-2008, 03:40 PM

Furthermore, the big question is what you need all this added weight for? Is this for sports, bodybuilding, to look good for the summer, etc.?

**intensityfreak** · 03-22-2008, 03:45 PM

for sports. in the fall.

**Narkissos** · 03-22-2008, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Schmidty

OH!!! detection time, i thought he ment duration it keeps u supressed. Id assume eq is still longer though...

Error.

You do know that EQ is a testosterone -derivative right?

**Narkissos** · 03-22-2008, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by intensityfreak

so if i switch to a short ester in deca i have to switch to short ester in test and drop the dbol right.

No..and no.

You don't 'have' to do either.

You just have to be conscious of the half-life of the NPP when laying out your dosing schedule.

The d-bol would still serve as a good secondary compound. (or kick-start)

-CNS

**Narkissos** · 03-22-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by intensityfreak

i am going for 20 to 25lbs. yea im worried about drug testing. is thier another good mass building substance to go with test e

Worried about drug-testing.

Then stick with the test and one other compound.

Cycling shouldn't be complex... There is no 'secret'.

Test-E/Dbol
Test-E/Winstrol

...If drug-testing is a concern...and LBM is the goal, as opposed to generic weigh-gain.

-CNS