First Cycle Help

**jlc2** · 03-24-2008, 04:18 PM

I want to do 400mg of test enanthate for 8 weeks. I then want to use HCG and clomid for PCT. Will the test however make my hair fall out and make me bloated and put on fat?

My stats:
225lbs
18% body fat
3 years solid training
21 years old

**nowdenlid** · 03-24-2008, 04:23 PM

fat gain will depend on diet ,ai for bloat,cant ansewer q anbout hair as if your prone to hair loss your prone,but i dont think test is that bad for hair loss

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 03-24-2008, 04:26 PM

test cycle not long enough and wheres the nolvadex for pct?

**jlc2** · 03-24-2008, 04:32 PM

I thought clomid and HCG would be good enough???? How long would you recommend? 10 weeks? HOw will my strength gains and size gains be about?

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 03-24-2008, 04:37 PM

you dont have anythign to combact gyno.
10-12 weeks minimum.

**jlc2** · 03-24-2008, 04:46 PM

So would you say 11 weeks of test (400mg) and 20mg nolvadex every day and then clomids for PCT at the end 2 weeks after last test injection?? Thanks for the input. I just want to get all my things right before i start. This is my first cycle.

**nowdenlid** · 03-24-2008, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by jlc2

So would you say 11 weeks of test (400mg) and 20mg nolvadex every day and then clomids for PCT at the end 2 weeks after last test injection?? Thanks for the input. I just want to get all my things right before i start. This is my first cycle.

500mgs test e 12 weeks.dont start nolva UNLESS YOU SEE SIGNS OF GYNO(sore puffy nips)if so start at 20-30mgs ed untill its gone.then keep on hand i case it comes back...useing nolva thuout cycle will hinder gains as you want some estrgon in your body.start pct 14 days fter last shot of tst e
pct clomid for 4 weeks 100/100/50/50

nolva 4 weeks 30/30/20/20

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 03-24-2008, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

500mgs test e 12 weeks.dont start nolva UNLESS YOU SEE SIGNS OF GYNO(sore puffy nips)if so start at 20-30mgs ed untill its gone.then keep on hand i case it comes back...useing nolva thuout cycle will hinder gains as you want some estrgon in your body.start pct 14 days fter last shot of tst e
pct clomid for 4 weeks 100/100/50/50

nolva 4 weeks 30/30/20/20

agreed^^

**jlc2** · 03-25-2008, 04:07 AM

Is the nolva also after last shot of test. Sorry if im a bother. Just want to be 100% sure.

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 04:30 AM

This sounds a bit weird...
Why someone at 18% bf is so afraid of fat/bloat and doesn't try to cut up a bit before bulk?

**jlc2** · 03-25-2008, 04:36 AM

Im happy with the fat now, but i dont want to go above 18% though. ChuckLee are you South African? You got Vernon Koekemoer in your avatar. lol

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 04:38 AM

I wish I was in SA now...
So I suggest you to run an AI like arimidex during your 10/12 weeks cycle.

CL

**jlc2** · 03-25-2008, 07:12 AM

Thanks bro. How much arimidex though?

**SECdominance** · 03-25-2008, 08:20 AM

Test E sure as hell will make you bloated. You oughta make sure to keep some letro on hand for those purposes

**fatherof6** · 03-28-2008, 07:13 PM

All side effects I have found to be different for everyone. I have seen hair loss and hair gane in two different trainers on the same bottle. I have seen good and bad happen to the same person on two different things. Its all up to the oh mighty body what happens and what side effects you will have I would have to say.