new to steroids.

**newtosteroids** · 03-25-2008, 04:40 AM

hello.
im 24 , and am considering doing my first cycle.
i'm 5'8 , 65 klg and been working out regularly for the last 7 years.
want to put on a little bit of hard muscle and cut down a bit as well.
some friends have recommended to me to use primobolan + winstrol .
but some websites have mentioned that primobolan is a better version of winstrol, is it worth combining both or taking only primobolan?
plus, is it worth adding test for my first cycle?
a bit scared of the side effects, plus i dont want to get too big.
would appreciate ur advise since i dont understand much about it.
many thanks
idan

**ChuckLee** · 03-25-2008, 04:52 AM

You don't want to get too big

this make me laugh so much...
You are 65kg and you want to do roids for what so???
65kg=143lbs Everyone here's gonna deeply dissuade you from getting roids.
You have to revise your diet from the roots. You've been training for 7 years and seems that your diet is not in check so much, and you know (you know huh) that is the MOST IMPORTANT thing to consider when you lift weights. Roids don't give you what you're searching for, not worth for your goals. I'm not flaming you, I'm just driving you to the right path.

Cheers
CL

**Lach01** · 03-25-2008, 05:09 AM

Listen to CL i started very young and at a very low weight much lower than yours and i regret it completly now, wish i never started them so young and packed the weight on naturally.

Go to the diet forums and read up in there and/or PM perfectbeast to look through your diet for ya.

**jbonez19** · 03-25-2008, 05:25 AM

yeah, sounds like all your goals are attainable via the natural route. you don't need AAS bro, get your training and diet sorted, sounds like that will do the job for you. don't wanna get too big. that's funny. it takes alot of hard work and dedication to get "big". if you don't want it, it won't happen by magic, have no fear. good luck bro.

**newtosteroids** · 03-25-2008, 05:29 AM

when i started working out i weighed 44 kilos, i have an extreamly rapid metabelation, and with my body type is not easy to put on weight, have finished a personal training course a few months ago so have some knowledge of what to do. i'll be quite happy with putting on 5-6 kilos of lean muscle.when i said i dont want to put on too much weight, i ment to say that im quite aware of my height and body type and ive seen some ppl that just became big and out of purpurtion.
i appreciate ur advise, but still want to know which one will get better results? primo by itself or a combination of winstrol + primo?