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    Cutting Cycle recommendations

    6 ft even
    230 lbs
    only completed one cycle of
    750 test e
    400 deca

    for 8 weeks

    I had amazing results and put on about 22 lbs. I would like to hear about a cycle that would keep me at this weight or less while tightening my muscles up, lowering body fat, and obtain more definition. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks

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    just for info, 8 weeks of test e is nowhere near enough, it should be run for at least 10-12 on account of the long ester nor peaking blood levels till the 4 week unless run with a kickstart

    1-12 test prop 100mgs/eod
    1-12 winstrol or tren A 100mgs/eod
    1-3 Anavar 40mgs/day

    is a good intermediate cutting cycle

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    btw, how long have you been off cycle and what was ur pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    just for info, 8 weeks of test e is nowhere near enough, it should be run for at least 10-12 on account of the long ester nor peaking blood levels till the 4 week unless run with a kickstart

    1-12 test prop 100mgs/eod
    1-12 winstrol or tren A 100mgs/eod
    1-3 Anavar 40mgs/day

    is a good intermediate cutting cycle
    With such short esters why go as long? Tren is usually not recomended for beginers even though i cant talk cause i used it in every cycle. I would do somthing shorter such as

    1-8 test p 100mg ed
    1-8 tren a 75mg ed

    Also if prone to gyno use nolva 10mg ed and for tren gyno you need either bromo or vitamin b6 or b12 but you will need to search on that.

    of course research pct.

    i did that for my first (cutting cycle) and it worked perfectly.

    Also remember what makes or breaks a cutting cycle is going to be your diet. The steroids will just help you retain more muscle while your dieting as well the tren will get you solid.

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    just my opinion, from what i've read from most of the vets they recommend 10-12 even on prop but 1-8 would probably work as well, it's mostly gonna come down to his diet

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    my cutters are only 8wks. but id say
    1-8 test p 50mgs ed
    1-8 tren a 50mgs ed
    3-8 winny 50mgs ed or 1-8 mast 50mgs ed

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    I completed a 12 week cycle and only used Novaldex and HCG for a PCT. I read that clomid gave depression and it shyed me away from it. Based on the responses, I have more questions, If I did 12 weeks, would it make much difference? And if so, doesn't that give me a better chance of gaining weight? I want to tighten and cut, not gain. Thanks for the responses so far.

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    I like the 8 week cycle 200byjune mentions, but injections every day for 8 weeks seem a bit harch on the hiney. Is there an alternative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    just for info, 8 weeks of test e is nowhere near enough, it should be run for at least 10-12 on account of the long ester nor peaking blood levels till the 4 week unless run with a kickstart

    1-12 test prop 100mgs/eod
    1-12 winstrol or tren A 100mgs/eod
    1-3 Anavar 40mgs/day

    is a good intermediate cutting cycle
    12 weeks of winny or tren a for first time user???somehow i dont think so bro..

    12 weeks of winny is a very very bad idea and you shouldent give out advise like this..

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    What about this for a cutting;
    wk 1-17 Test Prop 75mg/ed
    wk 1-15 EQ 60mg/ed (to cut the Prop)
    wk 7-17 Anavar 40mg/ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by apbt14 View Post
    What about this for a cutting;
    wk 1-17 Test Prop 75mg/ed
    wk 1-15 EQ 60mg/ed (to cut the Prop)
    wk 7-17 Anavar 40mg/ed
    no need to run prop for 17 weeks....

    test p 75 mgs ed 8-10 weeks

    winny 50 mgs ed 4-6 weeks..

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    You should stop the EQ before the Test, EQ doesn't really kick in for about 12 weeks so at 15 weeks you get some great results. Then you run the Prop for 2 more weeks to keep your levels up after stopping the EQ.

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    if you wanna cut, first off have a solid cutting diet plan in place and do cardio..steroids wont burn fat off ya, but they will help ya hold onto muscle while in a caloric deficit

    1-8 75 mg prop/day or 150 EOD
    3-8 50mg winny/day
    PCT starts 3 days after last shot of prop

    you dont need tren yet nor do you need 17 week cycles like proposed..Eq is poor choice for cutting from my experience..it makes me so damn hungry all the time

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