T-Bol info/input

[jc95605]

Am thinking about taking T-bol. I've searched this website for some threads on T-bol and found a few. Has anybody actually taken T-bol personally. I'm wondering how far into the cycle did you notice results? Were their gains on size, strength or both? I just finished a cycle of DNP so obviously i'm trying to keep my BF%/water retention as low as possible. Right now i'm throwing around taking 50mgs a day for about 5 wks. Any suggestions? What results did you notice? The more input the better. Thanks guys, I appreciate the help.

[samcam]

Am thinking about taking T-bol. I've searched this website for some threads on T-bol and found a few. Has anybody actually taken T-bol personally. I'm wondering how far into the cycle did you notice results? Were their gains on size, strength or both? I just finished a cycle of DNP so obviously i'm trying to keep my BF%/water retention as low as possible. Right now i'm throwing around taking 50mgs a day for about 5 wks. Any suggestions? What results did you notice? The more input the better. Thanks guys, I appreciate the help.

I assume, and hope, you will be taking Test along with the t-bol? If not it will be a waste of time and money. I ran t-bol with Test and personally didn't like it, stomach cramps, joint pain and I didn't feel the effects until week 4, I doubt I will use it again.

[Billytk03z]

I assume, and hope, you will be taking Test along with the t-bol? If not it will be a waste of time and money. I ran t-bol with Test and personally didn't like it, stomach cramps, joint pain and I didn't feel the effects until week 4, I doubt I will use it again.

I completely disagree..... Tbol is the one steroid IMHO that can be run by itself with very good keepable gains..... I ran @ 60mg ed..... very slight impact on HPTA and very easy to recover with or without Pct (in my case, didnt pct and recovered fast and fine)... If u need to PCT then Nolva @ 20mg ed for 3 weeks should be plenty...... Each person is different... everyone warned me of stomach cramps, gas, etc. etc.. and I experienced no sides.. well the only side I side experienced was out of control horniness... (Yeah Baby!!!) Hands down my favorite AAS... incredible strength increase and nice lean muscle gain (no water).... I am running VAR @ 70mg ed by itself right now and it doesnt even compare to TBOL..... I felt the effects of TBOL around week 2.....

good luck...

[energizer bunny]

I completely disagree..... Tbol is the one steroid IMHO that can be run by itself with very good keepable gains..... I ran @ 60mg ed..... very slight impact on HPTA and very easy to recover with or without Pct (in my case, didnt pct and recovered fast and fine)... If u need to PCT then Nolva @ 20mg ed for 3 weeks should be plenty...... Each person is different... everyone warned me of stomach cramps, gas, etc. etc.. and I experienced no sides.. well the only side I side experienced was out of control horniness... (Yeah Baby!!!) Hands down my favorite AAS... incredible strength increase and nice lean muscle gain (no water).... I am running VAR @ 70mg ed by itself right now and it doesnt even compare to TBOL..... I felt the effects of TBOL around week 2.....

good luck...

Have to agree 100%

ill be doing 80mg for 8 wks. and price wise, excellent!!

[james21]

tbol by itself is fine, 5 weeks is way to short you dont feel it usually till mid way through week 3, but when you do you do. Weight gets lighter and it puts on some good clean dry mass. Keeps you pretty pumped all the time too. But on the other hand tbol increases appetite ALOTTT you will want to eat everything all the time so its not ideal if your trying to keep your bf down, unless you run some kind of appetite supprs

[samcam]

tbol by itself is fine, 5 weeks is way to short you dont feel it usually till mid way through week 3, but when you do you do. Weight gets lighter and it puts on some good clean dry mass. Keeps you pretty pumped all the time too. But on the other hand tbol increases appetite ALOTTT you will want to eat everything all the time so its not ideal if your trying to keep your bf down, unless you run some kind of appetite supprs

T-bol had no effect on my appetite, actually gave me stomach cramps and I wouldn't suggest taking an oral by itself anyway.

[james21]

T-bol had no effect on my appetite, actually gave me stomach cramps and I wouldn't suggest taking an oral by itself anyway.

and i dont see why an oral only tbol cycle has any negative effect? It works well

[100m champ]

a while back i did t-bol only at 40mg for 6wk and i gained close to 10lb.. mild strength gains and decent weight gain

[respek]

I don't know why people are saying that tbol must be taken with test. If you are looking for lean muscle mass and not expecting huge gains it is effective.

[jc95605]

i would be taking ephedra and hoodia while on the T-bol. Sounds like you won't get noticeable gains unless you add some test to it. How did you take it james? Did you also use test? How long did you cycle the t-bol for. I was considering taking it longer it longer if i have to which it sounds like it. Did you have alot of water retention? Thanks again guys for your help.

[Hudson]

Hey JC, whats your stats? Height, weight, lifting experience. What is it you want to achive? I'm assuming you got your PCT in check also?

[jc95605]

24, 5'7", 168lbs, been lifting off and on for a couple yrs now. Been really hittin the gym for the last 6mos while i was deployed. Just now starting to get into steroids, learning about them and what not. I'd like to gain alot of lean muscle. I just finished a cycle of DNP to get my BF down a bit. I wouldn't mind gaining 5-10lbs as long as its dry weight only. Also I hear that T-bol will help with fat burning as well, that would be a hige plus. Last time i check in december i had 17%. That derfinately needs to come down. Since the DNP cycle i can see my abs again so i'm on the right track with that. But mostly i wanna blast my chest and my shoulders until summer. If I'm convince that T-bol is worth running until summer then i might just do that. Anything else let me know. Thanks again for everybody's input. You guys are definately helping me with this decision.

[Johnybravo75]

I took Tbol by itself at 50mg ed for 4wks. i really liked it, i got descent strength gains and some size. the best thing about it was there was no bloat whatsoever. It got me over the hump in the gym before i got back on cycle

[Hudson]

Ok JC There's a lot to learn but you can find it all out on the boards if you take the time to do a little research. Just want to point out a couple of things to consider before you jump into aas, if you already know this I apologise in advance for boring you lol
If your lifting experience and knowledge isn't upto scratch you run the risk of injury when you start aas so it's important to have good technique, know your body and listen to it etc.
Also you should have a good diet and understand how to adjust your calories to add the mass you want when on cycle and also maintain it after the cycle, you don't want to lose the mass soon after the cycle do you!
If you only want to gain 5-10lbs you could do this without steroids, so you should look into the sides of aas and decide whether or not you believe the risk is worth the reward.
As far as i'm aware T-bol does not have any fat burning benefits.

Have fun learning and good luck reaching your goals!

[jc95605]

I learned alot about eating/dieting while on DNP so i think i'm good there. About a year ago I hurt my right shoulder while I was lifting hence the off and on part about lifting. I also learned how to listen to my body a lil bettter, which is why i haven't had anymore serious injuries. Johnybravo had me at "got me over the hump" because I think i hit that. I seem to be stuck. I plan on cycling the Tbol for about 5-6wks, in there. I have to ask tho, johnybravo, you said you had no water retention/bloat. How was your diet? were you strice. Thanks again for your help guys.

[mousetraps]

I did 8 weeks at 80mg, it was good news. Good dry gains (15-20 I think), no side effects whatsoever. I did it solo too.

I would strongly reccomend upping it to 8 weeks of you can, since it took a few weeks to start working. It may/may not burn fat somehow, but there was like zero bloat.

[Jacoby]

I did 8 weeks at 80mg, it was good news. Good dry gains (15-20 I think), no side effects whatsoever. I did it solo too.

I would strongly reccomend upping it to 8 weeks of you can, since it took a few weeks to start working. It may/may not burn fat somehow, but there was like zero bloat.

what did you run for pct?

[mousetraps]

what did you run for pct?

Standard nolva.. cant really remember, but just found a typical post and followed it

[respek]

Did you keep your gains?

[jc95605]

How long were you taking the tbol for billy? What were your gains? How much did your bench go up? Did you experience alot of size or strength gains? Both? Thanks for your input.

[Billytk03z]

How long were you taking the tbol for billy? What were your gains? How much did your bench go up? Did you experience alot of size or strength gains? Both? Thanks for your input.

I have answered this question in a ton of other tbol threads but If I remember correctly.... I used Tbol @ 60mg ed for 10 weeks a.nd I went from 194 to 228lbs....... when cycle finished I stabalized at 224lbs til my next cycle started..... incredible strength gain, increased sex drive, increased well being if that makes sense (I just felt better), hardly if none water retention....

Im not a big stat guy, etc.... so I really dont keep track of how much I max on the bench and i do a lot of super setting (my goal is lean muscle)..... before I started the tbol I was 6'1" 194lbs, 7%bf and comfortably benched 200 - 225 for medium to high rep sets (8-12)... still keep in my that I super set everything, so I will go from bi curls to bench, tris to back, vice versa, etc. etc.... anyway while still doing my superset routine my bench shot up to 295 and this was only a weight I tried cuz it was on the rack... I lifted the 295 easily for 3-4 reps unassisted and this was after I had finished my hour long super setting workout..... I know could of easily hit over 300lbs fresh.... I often kick myself for not trying my max bench.... but anyway you get the idea... Tbol is great stuff.... keep in my mind tho that this was my first cycle i had ever run so my body could responded extraordinarily to the tbol.... but when I ran it for a 2nd cycle it was pretty much the same response as the first time... awesome...


good luck!!!

[noneyours]

yes, you can take it by itself and get good gains, but you will be much happier if you take at least a little bit of test with it, even if it is only 200mg/wk.

[Jacoby]

yes, you can take it by itself and get good gains, but you will be much happier if you take at least a little bit of test with it, even if it is only 200mg/wk.

from what i've read, taking just 200mg/wk of test is not gonna do much for you...especially if you only try to run it for the 6-8 weeks that you take the t-bol

[noneyours]

in that case you wouldn't really be taking the test for muscle gain.

[jc95605]

Has anybody ran tbol while taking clen? Like I said before i think i wanna do another quick cycle of DNP to get my BF% down then switch it up to tbol. My main thing is keeping my BF% low. Does anybody know if taking lets say 80-120mcgs of clen a day counter the effects of tbol? From what I understand the clen wouldn't, just assure that the gains i get are only dry muscle gains which tbol seems to want to do anyway.

[jc95605]

I appreciate your input billy. Right now i put up 225lbs for 5 reps. When i hit 10reps i usually add 20lbs. Anyway I'd like to get to 300, sounds like tbol will get me there. The reason why I asked you for your input was because it sounded like we had similar strength levels so I could better tell how i would respond to it. I'm happy to say my tbol is on the way. Thanks again for everybody's help. I guess I won't need the clen while on tbol then huh? Ok no problem, fine by me.

[Jacoby]

my tbol shipped the first...but customs has been snaggin a lot of packages lately, not feelin so good.

[jc95605]

crap i just ordered mine today hopefully it'll get here soon. I'm anxious to start it! I was going to ask where others get theres from but since i already ordered mine i guess i don't need to know that anymore. I know its a touchy subject.