getting started on my cycle..

[vos103]

Hey everyone, I am new to this forum and I will start off by saying I am 19years old, 5' 10" 195lb and have been into serious lifting since I was 17 and have been hitting the gym since I was 15. My bench max is 255 and I finish up my squat sets with 325lb X 5. I have been running a lot more lately and been doing higher reps with less weight to begin cutting up for the spring and summer. I am down to 185lb now and I have been looking into steroids.. I cannot overcome this plateau like the other plateau's i have encountered. I need a boost and this is why I am thinking of using steroids.
I am not to sure where to start, I am a young guy, I don't feel as if I need to jump on TEST for my first cycle but I am new to this stuff advice with this stuff. My BF is 18% and I have a good solid build with everything pretty proportional. My goal is to get over this plateau, become stroger, maybe compete in the near future, and give my muscles a more defined, hard and dense look. Where do I start?

PS- I hope I am in the right Forum THE AIR LOUNGE
Thanks again

[200byjune]

this is a steroid question so it should be in the questions and answers. first off if you weigh 185 at 18% bf steroids are not safe. now i am usually for younger people cycling but you have alot of improvment to make. go to the diet forum and check out the stickies they will be very helpful. when cutting steroids arent that helpful unless your 12% or less bf. get the diet down come back in a year when you have a sloid diet and no what to do. test would be the safest steroid to use in your case.

[jbonez19]

sorry bro, wrong forum, but don't worry one of the mods will move your thread. mate to be honest you are too young, you've got at least a couple of years to wait AT LEAST. you can't have reached an impassable plateau with only two years of training at 19 years of age, you need to change your training up. also the fact that you are at 18% bf is indicative to your diet not being what it should be. you should post in both the training and diet forums, no doubt both could do with some tweaking. test will be the place for you to start, but not yet young brother. guaranteed you have alot more to gain naturally first. good luck.

[jbonez19]

this is a steroid question so it should be in the questions and answers. first off if you weigh 185 at 18% bf steroids are not safe. now i am usually for younger people cycling but you have alot of improvment to make. go to the diet forum and check out the stickies they will be very helpful. when cutting steroids arent that helpful unless your 12% or less bf. get the diet down come back in a year when you have a sloid diet and no what to do. test would be the safest steroid to use in your case.

oh, you're for young people cycling are you? right. don't know quite what to say to that. maybe some of the vets can give you their opinions.

[200byjune]

yes i am and i do not know what your trying to say. if there older then 18 have 4 years lifting and show me a diet that is good to go and have good stats. if they seem edjacated im sure they no the dangers. its not my call to tell them not to do it how about we all say its a dumb idea and if they insist atleast help them out. i started at 16 and i do not regret it. i studied for 2 years before touching steroids. i always hung out with the seniors in my school that used gear and i just have fgreat genetics and was able to hang with them. once i felt i was knolegable of steroids i did a cycle of test c for 12 weeks with pct. i had my diet down and i was sure i was getting real gear. its not your choice weather they use or not lets try to be suportive and se why they want to do it. and like i said i do not think you are ready. i do not apreciate the threat u gave me. its very immature. and how about we talk to the vets about that it doesnt matter everybody has there own opinion. if they know the dangers and have a diet with good stats im all for them using because it will be a great asset to there life and possibly there career. im sticking with what i said.

[Schmidty]

If u feel u must cycle, id say var and clen...

[ChuckLee]

If u feel u must cycle, id say var and clen...

Hope you are kidding

[ChuckLee]

Kid, there are so many incorrect thing on your thread...
First of all, you started this in the AR lounge, this means that you don't know where you are and don't read the rules (and this is the WORST thing);
Second, you are 19 and there is NO WAY you'd need steroids to improve your growth, this means again you don't read the stickies (BAD thing again);
Third, who said you you don't need test in a cycle?
Fourth, why telling in your stats you are 195 when you're actually 10lbs less?
Finally, 18% sounds a bit too much fat to start a cycle, you'd better cut a bit before bulking (if bulking is your goal, sure), but don't worry with this, you're not ready for AAS yet

CL

[ChuckLee]

yes i am and i do not know what your trying to say. if there older then 18 have 4 years lifting and show me a diet that is good to go and have good stats. if they seem edjacated im sure they no the dangers. its not my call to tell them not to do it how about we all say its a dumb idea and if they insist atleast help them out. i started at 16 and i do not regret it. i studied for 2 years before touching steroids. i always hung out with the seniors in my school that used gear and i just have fgreat genetics and was able to hang with them. once i felt i was knolegable of steroids i did a cycle of test c for 12 weeks with pct. i had my diet down and i was sure i was getting real gear. its not your choice weather they use or not lets try to be suportive and se why they want to do it. and like i said i do not think you are ready. i do not apreciate the threat u gave me. its very immature. and how about we talk to the vets about that it doesnt matter everybody has there own opinion. if they know the dangers and have a diet with good stats im all for them using because it will be a great asset to there life and possibly there career. im sticking with what i said.

I can't believe at 14 you were already studying steroids!!!
This makes me laugh, did you ever think about girls? At 14 I didn't even think of damaging my body that way, since at 16-18yo, you can only damage your body introducing chemicals before your natural envelopment hasn't finished yet. Nobody's threating you, if you feel scared is due probably to your estrogen levels that make you talk so girly instead of reasoning like a MAN. How old are you now. And how AAS works in conjunction with your beers )I'm referring to your avy)??
Giving horrible advice like yours to newbies is against the rules and you should know that, so please keep you ideas for your own without incite anyone to hurt himself.

CL

[DSM4Life]

I stay in the lounge and away from the Q/A to get away from these types of questions !

[ChuckLee]

I stay in the lounge and away from the Q/A to get away from these types of questions !

wise advice DSM. Well done

[nowdenlid]

if your diet was as good as you say ,you wouldent be 18%,you have got alot of learning to do man(boy)

[MASTER]

Wait till you stop growing and when your hormones arent peaking, like they currently will be. The natural growth you can get between 16 and 21 is absolutely ridiculous, especially if you know what you are doing. Continue researching, improving your diet, training program etc and lose some weight. 5'10 185 sounds like the stats of a moderately muscular dude, but at 18%, thats not all that big, it is certainly fat though. You have a lot to learn before you start a cycle, but you have come to the right place. Utilise the supplement, diet and training forums and the knowledge of the guys here, and I guarantee you will make some serious progress, whilst staying natural.

[200byjune]

I can't believe at 14 you were already studying steroids!!!
This makes me laugh, did you ever think about girls? At 14 I didn't even think of damaging my body that way, since at 16-18yo, you can only damage your body introducing chemicals before your natural envelopment hasn't finished yet. Nobody's threating you, if you feel scared is due probably to your estrogen levels that make you talk so girly instead of reasoning like a MAN. How old are you now. And how AAS works in conjunction with your beers )I'm referring to your avy)??
Giving horrible advice like yours to newbies is against the rules and you should know that, so please keep you ideas for your own without incite anyone to hurt himself.

CL

i told him i do not think hes ready for steroids. and it was my decision. who said i was scared your just a punk talking shit online thats real manly of you let me tell you. i wouldnt tell somone to use steroids if there diet was shitty and there stats werent good. not enough knolege on steroids. if you read my posts you would see i said i do not think he is ready. and also at his age it is not nessicary if there arent particular goals and for a specific reason that would need steroids.

[ChuckLee]

i told him i do not think hes ready for steroids. and it was my decision. who said i was scared your just a punk talking shit online thats real manly of you let me tell you. i wouldnt tell somone to use steroids if there diet was shitty and there stats werent good. not enough knolege on steroids. if you read my posts you would see i said i do not think he is ready. and also at his age it is not nessicary if there arent particular goals and for a specific reason that would need steroids.

You've just used your personal experience of "kids and steroids" to show him and probably any other noob that is possible to use roids at that age, whit good results and no issues?!?!?! WTF
BTW I'm gonna leave this thread, tired of losing my time with this shit.

Cheers
CL

[fatherof6]

It is amazing what peeps think with roids....this not an a fix, its a way of life and a very very must follow to the tee or your going to end up in trouble if you don't watch things CLOSE! These are not toys for kids!