When to start

[lee1990]

i have just turned 18 and been lifting for nearly 2 year. i have made decent gains i think, please have a look at the pictures i have uploaded.

i am thinking about doing a cycle, for muscle and to get my b/f down. Do you guys think i should wait a bit longer or start rite away?

[IvanDrago]

wait till ur at least 22...maybe even 24....look into the bulking diets on this site...your natural test levels will be high for a few more years best to take advantage of that...this is the point of ur life when you can make gains that will be there forever.

[IvanDrago]

I know u dont want to hear that but its the truth and its going to be the sentiment of most on this site and some of these guys really know what they're taking about.

[mkrulic]

you are on a natural mild cycle of test right now. do a cycle and you will end that. why pay for what you get naturally.
I basicly parroted Ivan but this is worth re-emphasizing

[Big]

I don't think any of our responsible members will recommend a cycle to someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are very high right now and will be for a few years or more. If you aren't continuing to grow, it isn't due to a lack of testosterone in your system.

[mkrulic]

I don't think any of our responsible members will recommend a cycle to someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are very high right now and will be for a few years or more. If you aren't continuing to grow, it isn't due to a lack of testosterone in your system.

I must have beat you by about 10 seconds. agree 100% tho.

[lee1990]

thank you for the fast replies. i will take your adivice. Do you guys think i have made reasonable progress? Ive cut the alcohol out my diet now so i hope to get cut.

[Big]

I think you have made great progress.

[AandF6969]

I think you have made great progress.

Same here.

Post up your diet in the diet forum and we'll critique it... diet is where most people fail, and if you can catch errors in it early on you're much better off.

[PT]

if your going to be a professional body builder then thats a different story but at 18 your just to yound to start a cycle nox plus you can still grow alot natural with a good diet and alot of hard work

[VIPLV]

Check out the diet forum and hit your peak naturally first. Read this board consistently for the next 4-6 years and by that time you'll have more of an understanding of your body and how AAS works. You'll have 4+ years of disapline and info stored in you're head and you'll make 10 X more gains from your cycle at that time!!!! The people with the best gains are the people with the the most disipline and knowledge!!!

[lee1990]

if your going to be a professional body builder then thats a different story but at 18 your just to yound to start a cycle nox plus you can still grow alot natural with a good diet and alot of hard work

i do want to be a professional body builder. my life evolves around weightlifting. should i still wait?

[BG]

Well as far as being a pro....thats a life long comitment, LOTS of juicing, good genetics and cost tons of money. Now you have done good naturally, but theres no need for gear yet. I would spend the next 3 years researching and perfercting your diet, training and supps. Then once your a bit older decide then about messing with your hormones. As far as being a pro, well I would give that a second thought, very few make it and do serious harm to their body trying.

[lee1990]

Well as far as being a pro....thats a life long comitment, LOTS of juicing, good genetics and cost tons of money. Now you have done good naturally, but theres no need for gear yet. I would spend the next 3 years researching and perfercting your diet, training and supps. Then once your a bit older decide then about messing with your hormones. As far as being a pro, well I would give that a second thought, very few make it and do serious harm to their body trying.

ok thanks, i think i will concentrate on my diet for a few year as it isnt very good atm. tar for the advice i will do as you guys say as you no what u are talking about.

[mkrulic]

if your going to be a professional body builder then thats a different story but at 18 your just to yound to start a cycle nox plus you can still grow alot natural with a good diet and alot of hard work

explain this post to me please. you say, "if your going to be a professional body builder then thats a different story..."
so according to this if he wants to be a prof bb he should do it. then you write, "but at 18 your just to yound to start a cycle...". which would indicate that he shouldn't. so if he wants to be a prof bb what should he do, iyo?

[Nstart]

You don't look very tall. How tall are you?

I don't compete and I don't really want to be a body builder, but from what I have seen, most guys are usually taller (at least 5'10, many in the 6'1-6'2 range). You look to be about 5'7 from your pictures.



edit: Jason, you're 6'2 and 141lbs?

[lee1990]

You don't look very tall. How tall are you?

I don't compete and I don't really want to be a body builder, but from what I have seen, most guys are usually taller (at least 5'10, many in the 6'1-6'2 range). You look to be about 5'7 from your pictures.



edit: Jason, you're 6'2 and 141lbs?

im 5 foot 8/9

[BG]

most guys are usually taller (at least 5'10, many in the 6'1-6'2 range).

Alot of top guys are under 5'10", if you have ever seen when Wolf is in the line up you would realize it.