starting 1 st cycle

[jreel]

ok check it out did a lot of research and came up wit this is what{stats 23 , 300lbs, waist 40, bf?} i'm going to do.

prop 100mg eod
winny 50mg ed {drinking it! shots are killer}

diet is 250gms protien 125 carbs low sodium and fat of course, and training 5 days a week already, and i have pct planned with nova or should i use clomid? suggestions welcome.
but other than that does this seem like a good cycle for my first? i know that alota people say just use test for the first cycle but i feel like this will be fine?
any comments ?

[AandF6969]

WTF

I'd recommend DIETING and doing CARDIO because you're going to have a friggin heart attack running gear if you're 300 lbs. Steroids aren't magic, they're not going to melt a hundred pounts of fat off of you... what are your goals?

[jAcKeD!!!!]

how long have you been dieting/training serious?

[VIPLV]

I don't know how tall you are, but at 300 lbs and 40" waist, you gotta be pushin 30% or more bodyfat bro! You need to visit the diet forum, and go get your stats from the doc, Gear would probably be a very bad idea for you at this point, and not only because you don't know how your body respondes to diet and exercise, but MAINLY for health reasons! IMO you shouldn't even think about gear until you're under 20% BF!

Maybe you could try, depending on your BP and.......Nah forget it. Just diet really hard! Visit the Diet forum

[jreel]

i'm 6.1 and training for a bout a month serious btw i dont look like 300lb but i will look more at the diet section i know this is the most important part and i know they arnet magic.

[Big]

Bro, you should NOT be cycling any time soon.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

1 month serious in the gym and not dieting proper at all is your BIGGEST problem.
my suggestion is to get in thet diet forum and read read read . start eatin proper and keep up the training hard.

[mx3]

yeah bro, you need to cut down first and consistantly train for a while, the last thing you want is your blood pressure higher than it is.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

yo mx3 Join Date: May 2007
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................ where the avatar at buddddy!?

[jreel]

thats str8 never had a problem with high blood pressure or clst. but cool

[mx3]

yo mx3 Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 787

................ where the avatar at buddddy!?

I dont know how to post pics, big already tried to help me and I couldn't figure it out, trust me I tried for a while, i guess im not user friendly.

[inky-e]

hey bro,i weighed 330lbs at 5'11",50" waist and a total mess.i made a decision to change my life and long story short,i weigh 200lbs now.i got down to188lbs at one point .it wasn't until i lost the first 60lbs that i started hitting the weights seriously.i did not want loose skin as a result of the weight loss,so after careful consideration and research i started using juice to help me build muscle in the process still losing more weight,i hit a few plateaus in the process,losing fat weight at the same time building muscle weight.in no way am i telling you what to do,but aas does come with certain risks as well as side effects,raising blood pressure is just one.be well informed before you start juicing,and also listen to what some of the vets here tell you,such as Big,and also others,these guys know their stuff.whatever you decide on doing ,i wish you lots of good luck reaching your goals.i know you're in fla,i'm in miami,even though i'm still a newb,i'll help you in any way i can.

[Hiphopharry]

dude, train the brain and the body first! you have a long way to max out your limits before the gear is for you!

[jreel]

hey bro,i weighed 330lbs at 5'11",50" waist and a total mess.i made a decision to change my life and long story short,i weigh 200lbs now.i got down to188lbs at one point .it wasn't until i lost the first 60lbs that i started hitting the weights seriously.i did not want loose skin as a result of the weight loss,so after careful consideration and research i started using juice to help me build muscle in the process still losing more weight,i hit a few plateaus in the process,losing fat weight at the same time building muscle weight.in no way am i telling you what to do,but aas does come with certain risks as well as side effects,raising blood pressure is just one.be well informed before you start juicing,and also listen to what some of the vets here tell you,such as Big,and also others,these guys know their stuff.whatever you decide on doing ,i wish you lots of good luck reaching your goals.i know you're in fla,i'm in miami,even though i'm still a newb,i'll help you in any way i can.

good lookn thats alot of wieght you dropped and i thank u for the help and support , everybody i'm going to the dr on monday to get my bf and blood work and i'll repost my stats but i dont think theres no way i could lose 130lbs
my target weight is 250lb i think i would look sick due to my build

[AandF6969]

good lookn thats alot of wieght you dropped and i thank u for the help and support , everybody i'm going to the dr on monday to get my bf and blood work and i'll repost my stats but i dont think theres no way i could lose 130lbs
my target weight is 250lb i think i would look sick due to my build

Make muscle maintenance your priority and make sure that the weight you lose is mostly fat...

[inky-e]

good lookn thats alot of wieght you dropped and i thank u for the help and support , everybody i'm going to the dr on monday to get my bf and blood work and i'll repost my stats but i dont think theres no way i could lose 130lbs
my target weight is 250lb i think i would look sick due to my build

don't sell yourself short bro,anything's possible as long as you stick to your diet and train hard.i thought i'd be alright at 240lbs,funny thing is my body kept changing and eventually settled at 190lbs.now i'm bulking up with the muscle weight,and am up to 200lbs solid.my goal this time is to get to 210-215 then do a good pct and try to maintain 200-205...all muscle.

[jreel]

Make muscle maintenance your priority and make sure that the weight you lose is mostly fat...

thats what its bout bro.
hey inky u got some pics of you before and after?

[Civic0]

are you crazy? taking steroids at 300 lbs? GET ****ING REAL!

[inky-e]

thats what its bout bro.
hey inky u got some pics of you before and after?

Yes,under a thread called...More pics after 135lbs weight loss,post gastric-bypass.......its from 1/08 in the members pictures forum,its a few months old so you're gonna have to look a little for it.