Cycle help

**HeavyLifter2007** · 03-30-2008, 06:13 PM

I'm 28 years old, 215lbs, 5'11, (unsure bf% but i have a 4 pack and not beefy, id say im pretty lean for my size), diet well.

Ive been cycling for 4 years on and off. always trying new stuff. Loved sus/deca /winny/pct stack. Now i have options of: andropen 275, deca, winny, hgh, test cypionate , and pct (nolva, clomid, hgc) plus over the counter haladrol-50 and hemadrol. im unsure of how to create a new great stack. i wanna get lean gains of 15-20 more pounds. can someone give me some good advise on how to stack

From previous experiences and some research i was thinking:

Week 1-10 : Andropen 275 (3mL/week)
Week 1-10 : Deca (400mg/week)
Week 1-6 : Test Cyp (400mg/week)
Week 8-13 :winny (100mg EOD)
Week 8-13 :Hemadrol (1 tab/ed)
week 13- 19: PCT (Clomid, Nolvadex , HCG ) and recovery

Any suggestions?

**NATE0406** · 03-30-2008, 06:21 PM

looks ok.. but why all the test.. you will be running over 1200mgs a week for your first 6 weeks. and the cyp is kinda pointless at only 6 weeks.. and i would also run the test 2 weeks past the last injection of deca . jmo

**HeavyLifter2007** · 03-30-2008, 08:05 PM

Test Cyp should be run longer than deca ? or start later in the cycle so it runs 2 weeks past the last injection of deca?

**HeavyLifter2007** · 03-30-2008, 08:08 PM

do you think i should up the winny to balance the anabolics with the androgenics?

**NATE0406** · 03-30-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyLifter2007

Test Cyp should be run longer than deca? or start later in the cycle so it runs 2 weeks past the last injection of deca?

i just wouldnt even use the cyp.. but if you really wanted to then i would say knock down the dose to an hrt dose and run it for 12 weeks.

Originally Posted by HeavyLifter2007

do you think i should up the winny to balance the anabolics with the androgenics?

no i think your fine on the winny. you could bump to 75mgs ed but not a big deal you will see good results with 100mgs eod.

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 03-30-2008, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by NATE0406

i just wouldnt even use the cyp

that is the worst advice to give to someone.

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 03-30-2008, 08:43 PM

run the cyp for 12 weeks , everything else loooks good other then the fact i dont know what Hemadrol is.

**NATE0406** · 03-30-2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by jAcKeD!!!!

that is the worst advice to give to someone.

what are you talking about.. he is already runing test without the cyp.. im not telling him to not run test im telling him that he is talking about runing 1225 mgs of test for the first 6 weeks...

**HeavyLifter2007** · 03-30-2008, 08:47 PM

Thanks alot guys. I REALLY appreciate the help. Hemadrol is an OTC pro-hormone. alot of people i know say it works amazing for a legal alternative. We'll see. Ill keep you guys updated on how well it works. other than that ill just run the whole thing with the test cyp 12 weeks instead of 6.

**HeavyLifter2007** · 03-30-2008, 08:50 PM

what if i just use 200mg a week of the cyp for the 12 weeks?

**NATE0406** · 03-30-2008, 08:53 PM

yes that would be fine.. that what i was trying to get at.. you are already running 825mgs of test with the andropen . so just run it at a low dose so it goes 2 weeks past last deca injection but you do understand that that is over 1g of test a week.. right..