200mg/wk test 1st cycle

[Sust Man]

Ok, my buddy wants to run his first cycle. Hes set on running 200-300mg of test/wk and thats it. I told him that he needs to run 400-500mg/wk for much benefit, but I don't think he believes me since I'm not huge. I told him that I have never seen a lesser dosage suggested from anybody credible on the boards. To tell you the truth, though, I don't know exactly why you need to run more. What is the reason?

[NATE0406]

well the idea is that you want to run more than a hrt dose if you are only running test. now if your natural test levels are farely good then you will not be accomplishing much with 200 mgs a weeks of test. you would be better off staying natural. now if your test levels suck then adding an hrt dose could be benificial. but yes most will suggest a starter cycle of 400-500 mgs/week. why does he want to run such a low dose?

[bobbyeggertonson]

Well, you really don't need to run more. For some people 2-300 is perfectly fine. In fact, it might be better for your friend to run a lower dose as it will reduce side effects and water retention. Go ahead and post his stats so we know what we're dealing with.

[Sust Man]

Hes about 6'1'', 190, and pretty ripped already (maybe 6-8%bf), 24yrs old. I think maybe the jacked dude that's sellin it to him told him to do it like that, and now he probably isn't wild about spendin more money.

[NATE0406]

well then let him run it at what he wants. atleast hes not wanting to try anything crazy. i dont personally think that he is going to see a huge gain, but i could be wrong everyone reacts diff to these compounds.

[DKU]

I ran 250mg/week my first cycle and had crazy results (+90 lbs).

[Sust Man]

Yea, I don't think he's gonna listen. I actually ran 250mg/wk sust (500/wk for 2wks in the middle) a few years ago for my first cycle. I probably gained about 12 pounds on and felt like a badass, but I only kept about 5.

[Sust Man]

I ran 250mg/week my first cycle and had crazy results (+90 lbs).

That made me laugh out loud.

[NATE0406]

I ran 250mg/week my first cycle and had crazy results (+90 lbs).

you gained 90 pounds on 250mgs/weeks??? i must be reading that wrong....

[Sust Man]

Im pretty sure it was a joke. April fools maybe?

[NATE0406]

Im pretty sure it was a joke. April fools maybe?

damn i forgot it was april fools. haha

[exodito]

I ran 250mg/week my first cycle and had crazy results (+90 lbs).

Yea ok!!!

[DKU]

No, it's real. A lot of it was fat though - probably 50%.

[NATE0406]

No, it's real. A lot of it was fat though - probably 50%.

what??? so what was your starting weight and final weight. do you have pics???

[200byjune]

its a joke anyway hes fairly young and prosuming his levels are normal hes producing about 150mgs test e a week

[MrTAME]

its a joke anyway hes fairly young and prosuming his levels are normal hes producing about 150mgs test e a week

Test levels for a man are from 4 - 10 mg a day

a man with a high average test level would be producing 70 mg's a week...

So this would leave me to think that 300 mg's a week would be more than fine...but as with test...the more you use the more the results you will see but also the greater the sides...

[200byjune]

70mgs a week is 100mgs test e so double the results natrually to be completly shut down. it doesnt make sense. do it right or dont do it

[DKU]

what??? so what was your starting weight and final weight. do you have pics???

Yeah, check out this thread: What was your first cycle like?

Starting weight was ~170.

My starting weight before lifting was 135 at 6 feet tall. Now I'm a little over 270.