First Cycle, no needles!! Suggestions please??

[wazza16australia]

I have never done steroids, was thinking about getting some d-bols to try in pill form as i will not go near a needle, can some one please give me some good info about a first cycle??

[PowerLift86]

Im new to this to, but I am pretty sure people are going to ask for your stats.. age/height/weight/measurements/lifts...

I am doing my first cycle which is 125mg of deca w/ 125mg or sust 250 once a week in the same pin. I am about to do my 2nd injection. Its really not that bad, if you can get someone to do the first one for you to show you (a friend that juices or something) and then you will know from there.

PL86

[Phate]

powerlifts right, we need stats to help answer questions, but almost everyone will advise again an oral only cycle, they are hard on your liver and don't yield as good results as an injectable cycle.

[shifty_git]

Im new to this to, but I am pretty sure people are going to ask for your stats.. age/height/weight/measurements/lifts...

I am doing my first cycle which is 125mg of deca w/ 125mg or sust 250 once a week in the same pin. I am about to do my 2nd injection. Its really not that bad, if you can get someone to do the first one for you to show you (a friend that juices or something) and then you will know from there.

PL86

Not a great first cycle.

Age, stats and lifting experience needed for any advice.

[PowerLift86]

Im not trying to Hijack the forum, but here is my post with my stats http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...76#post3909376 *in response to shifty*
Thanks,
PL86

[hobbs9963]

You really should your best to get over your fear of needles as it's the only link for optimal gains.

[mx3]

man up and use a needle.
powerlift86 your cycle is no good, first off sus needs to be shot eod to keep blood levels stable, and your dosages are too low, your basically taking theraputic amounts that will yeild minimal results.
dbol only cycles are no good!

[jchopper1]

great another d-bol only cycle? bro if u want to use aas get over the fear of needles...we all did

[Mbuffguy]

have someone shoot u so u don't look its not bad u feel more pumped up to lift

[ChuckLee]

no needles = no test = no cycle = natty improvement = good anyway till the time you'll be ready for pins.

CL

[wazza16australia]

Yeah sweet thanks guys, im sure it is hard on the old liver but so is drinking a lot of piss right? or is it a myth too? Lol......i'm also interested to know wat people think about nova? should i include that with the cycle? or use it as PCT?

[Big]

As already requested, we need your stats:
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

[DKU]

You get used to needles pretty quick.

[wazza16australia]

Im 21 been training for 5 years, 5'9, 192 pounds, dunno bout body

[wazza16australia]

i have seen on your american sites there are lots of tablet form of the gear is this true stuff or wat?

[shifty_git]

i have seen on your american sites there are lots of tablet form of the gear is this true stuff or wat?

what ya mean?!?!?

any oral that claims to be something thats normally injected is fake crap with no actual active aas ingredients.

[jchopper1]

do u mean nolvadex...cus that is PCT

[wazza16australia]

yeah i meant, nolvadex, dont jump the gun i was looking at ya site buysteroids.com is this site for real?

[shifty_git]

yeah i meant, nolvadex, dont jump the gun i was looking at ya site buysteroids.com is this site for real?

nope - no active ingredients.

hence why there 'legal'

[wazza16australia]

so wat u saying is this site is a load of crap?

[wazza16australia]

Edited. Read the board rules. You cannot ask this.

[Big]

Should I take a moment to read the rules?

I hope that you aren't asking for a source

[shifty_git]

edit ya last post - you cant ask that

take time to read the board rules!

[shifty_git]

and if when you say 'this site' your referring to steroid.com, this place is only for education and info, not sources or source discussion.

[Big]

edit post 21 please...

[AaronJM1984]

man up and use a needle.
powerlift86 your cycle is no good, first off sus needs to be shot eod to keep blood levels stable, and your dosages are too low, your basically taking theraputic amounts that will yeild minimal results.
dbol only cycles are no good!

squawk

[mkrulic]

21 is too young to start a cycle. just yesterday there was a guy that posted w/ libido problems that was about that old. learn how to train and eat and you will pass any gains you would have got from whatever cycle you are about to do

[wazza16australia]

sorry fellas new to this no need 2 drill a guy. illl have a go at something on my own seeins like u guys arent being very helpful.

[wazza16australia]

i made a decision not too take them at 18 when a friend of mine age 40 cycling for 15 years suggested a cycle for me.

[mkrulic]

sorry fellas new to this no need 2 drill a guy. illl have a go at something on my own seeins like u guys arent being very helpful.

try reading the rules and spending 3 mins of research. that would save everybody time.

[PEWN]

[shifty_git]

sorry fellas new to this no need 2 drill a guy. illl have a go at something on my own seeins like u guys arent being very helpful.

We are being helpful - everything that has been said in this thread is spot on advice.

1. No asking for sources here - think about it, its ILLEGAL and blatantly posting sources means law enforcement can easily track them and bust them and maybe you.
(IF YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF RAW DEAL I SUGGEST YOU GOOGLE IT)

2. Oral only cycles are generally bad. They stress the liver and shut down ya natty system. And when ya natty system shuts down it will produce NO TESTOSTERONE. - Think was test does for you, you have relied on it all your life, and especially for growth and well being since puberty.

3. If you cant handle needles, AAS are not for you.

No ones drilling you, just giving you good advice.

[hobbs9963]

We are being helpful - everything that has been said in this thread is spot on advice.

1. No asking for sources here - think about it, its ILLEGAL and blatantly posting sources means law enforcement can easily track them and bust them and maybe you.
(IF YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF RAW DEAL I SUGGEST YOU GOOGLE IT)

2. Oral only cycles are generally bad. They stress the liver and shut down ya natty system. And when ya natty system shuts down it will produce NO TESTOSTERONE. - Think was test does for you, you have relied on it all your life, and especially for growth and well being since puberty.

3. If you cant handle needles, AAS are not for you.

No ones drilling you, just giving you good advice.

Listen to the man.

[ANALISTOPS]

What you do is your business mate, but whatever you end up doing, make sure you read as much as you can beforehand and try to heed some of the advice from those who have already done it before you.
I'm not saying everyone in here is right nor wrong as they are stating their opinions and so i'll give you mine.
My first ever cycle was taking 25mg of Dianobol everyday for just under 6 weeks. I was strict with my diet, only eating good quality food and supplementing it with protein shakes. I gained 10kg, and ended up keeping 5kg.
Its years down the track since then and I have done another cycle of anadrol ( similar to d-bol ) ) along with sust 250 and after the results with the added sust250 , I wouldn't have done the pills only on my first cycle.
Beside the added bonus of keeping more of your gains, the quality of the gain is generally better.

[cymruymbyth]

The advice in regards to AAS on this forum is of a very high standard.You will find that alot of people here have a policy to look out for you and the AAS culture.The best way to describe it is to 'use it - not abuse it'.

that aside...My 21 year old brother also has been interested in AAS since a young age.He recently went to his dr and told him he has decided to cycle AAS. The doctor booked him an appointment at a local surgery where he had a growth plate scan to check if they were open or closed.He was told that he would not grow naturally any more then booked him in for a number of appointments to check his blood and liver content are all at healthy levels through out his steriod use.

hope this helps in some way?

[shifty_git]

The advice in regards to AAS on this forum is of a very high standard.You will find that alot of people here have a policy to look out for you and the AAS culture.The best way to describe it is to 'use it - not abuse it'.

that aside...My 21 year old brother also has been interested in AAS since a young age.He recently went to his dr and told him he has decided to cycle AAS. The doctor booked him an appointment at a local surgery where he had a growth plate scan to check if they were open or closed.He was told that he would not grow naturally any more then booked him in for a number of appointments to check his blood and liver content are all at healthy levels through out his steriod use.

hope this helps in some way?

Great living in the uk for that aspect alone!

If your honest with a lot of docs here they will help rather than hinder!

[wazza16australia]

Ok so ill learn 2 deal with a jab easy done, just wanted some opinions on orals thank you very much. as i said i have found websites that sell anabolic steroids, pill form vial form.

[shifty_git]

Ok so ill learn 2 deal with a jab easy done, just wanted some opinions on orals thank you very much. as i said i have found websites that sell anabolic steroids, pill form vial form.

Be careful - most are scammers.

And injecting really isnt that bad.

[wazza16australia]

so give me advice on a cycle

[AaronJM1984]

so give me advice on a cycle

test e or c
500 mg (split into 2 doses a week) for 12 weeks followed by a proper PCT