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    Little pain left nip?

    Started my second injection yesterday and just got a little pain in my upper left nipple, feels like a pimple just under the skin very small in size. I'm on androgel daily and 250mg test e every fourteen days. Got Clomaid and Nolvadex on hand should I take it? And how much?

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    Ok, your taking 250mg of test every fourteen days? IS this for HRT or an actual cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks View Post
    Ok, your taking 250mg of test every fourteen days? IS this for HRT or an actual cycle?
    I'm taking Androgel for HRT but added 250 mg test e myself. No cycle, planning to run it for a 20 week training program.

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    test 250 every 14 weeks is what has your nipple hurting. You need to read up more on the substance and how to effectively use it without negative sides as your experiencing. If your only going for 250mg injections you can do that once or twice a week which would give you 250mg per week or 500mg per week. This would keep your blood/hormone levels stable. What your experiencing most likely is estrogen rebound. Enanthate ester should take 14 days to clear your system which is when PCT is started after a cycle. What your doing is bringing levels up to 250mgs then declining to zero then back up to 250mg then back down to zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks View Post
    test 250 every 14 weeks is what has your nipple hurting. You need to read up more on the substance and how to effectively use it without negative sides as your experiencing. If your only going for 250mg injections you can do that once or twice a week which would give you 250mg per week or 500mg per week. This would keep your blood/hormone levels stable. What your experiencing most likely is estrogen rebound. Enanthate ester should take 14 days to clear your system which is when PCT is started after a cycle. What your doing is bringing levels up to 250mgs then declining to zero then back up to 250mg then back down to zero.
    Thanks for feedback, I thought it takes test e several weeks to kick in I'm not doing it every 14 weeks but ever two weeks. Plus I'm using the gel daily which should keep my test levels constant enough to avoid estrogen rebound. Anyway, should I start Clomaid or Nolvedex now?
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    you are doing test every 14 days and thats what he means. your experiencing estrogen rebound from doing test improperly. your boosting test levels then letting them drop and then bringing them to a hight. your body seeks homeostasis (hence the estrogen rebound) which you are allowing to take place using your 14 day off program. your program is not the most ffetctive and rebound bound. imo you should read more upon the drug you are injecting and its properly researched injection times. you should definitely be injecting at least once a week, maybe shorten your cycle, and add a proper pct plan at the end.
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    The test e injection will reach peak plasma levels within 24hrs of the injection. The term "kick in" can be confusing. Either way what lego said is correct, your levels are going up then back down and then up and your body is fooled and it starts converting the test into estrogen to keep things leveled. First thing you need to do is be consistent, either stop taking the gear or take it once a week at a minimum. Second, yes start the Nolva now and take it ED. The nolva will block most of the estrogen from binding to your receptors in your breast tissue(mammory gland).

    Please reserach as much as you can about gear, I would go to the profiles page and read up on testosterone .

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    The test e injection will reach peak plasma levels within 24hrs of the injection. The term "kick in" can be confusing. Either way what lego said is correct, your levels are going up then back down and then up and your body is fooled and it starts converting the test into estrogen to keep things leveled. First thing you need to do is be consistent, either stop taking the gear or take it once a week at a minimum. Second, yes start the Nolva now and take it ED. The nolva will block most of the estrogen from binding to your receptors in your breast tissue(mammory gland).

    Please reserach as much as you can about gear, I would go to the profiles page and read up on testosterone .

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    Thanks, I understand but what I don't get is why it is spiking and dropping when the gel is being administered every day? On the gel alone my t levels have tested in the 900 to 1200's. Should I stop the gel and go 250mg weekly for 9 weeks instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnT View Post
    Started my second injection yesterday and just got a little pain in my upper left nipple, feels like a pimple just under the skin very small in size. I'm on androgel daily and 250mg test e every fourteen days. Got Clomaid and Nolvadex on hand should I take it? And how much?
    Your better off with an AI like ARIMIDEX or LETROZOLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN View Post
    Your better off with an AI like ARIMIDEX or LETROZOLE
    Thats what my bubby said need to get my hands on some quick then... Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnT View Post
    Thanks, I understand but what I don't get is why it is spiking and dropping when the gel is being administered every day? On the gel alone my t levels have tested in the 900 to 1200's. Should I stop the gel and go 250mg weekly for 9 weeks instead?
    The gel is giving you a baseline but the addition of the bi-weekly injections is causing a spike after the injection which will last for about 5-6days and start dropping back to the baseline then repeated when you take the next injection. Your body likes to have a steady level of hormones and will do many different things to achieve that level(homostasis as someone mentioned)

    I hope that answers your question. As for the AIs you can purchase them at ar-r .com

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    The gel is giving you a baseline but the addition of the bi-weekly injections is causing a spike after the injection which will last for about 5-6days and start dropping back to the baseline then repeated when you take the next injection. Your body likes to have a steady level of hormones and will do many different things to achieve that level(homostasis as someone mentioned)

    I hope that answers your question. As for the AIs you can purchase them at ar-r.com
    Thanks that explains it I'll be stopping the gel and doing injections once a week with proper pct.

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    Must have been something else, its getting much better as of this morning no pain and the bump is almost gone. Thanks guys!

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