Major acne

[bean16]

I developed major acne on my shoulders, traps, back, and chest. My face is even breaking out more then it normally would. Seems i break out less when I'm on and when im off i have tons of acne. What can i do about the acne? I heard derms dont perscribe accutane anymore. Any other alternitives? thanks

[youngerlion]

proactive actually works for a couple relatives of mine.

[feanixco]

Proactiv works bro...I never had bad acne but I would get a little every now and then. I started using it an haven't had a breakout since. (on my face and neck that is) I heard they have a body wash bar which I might try out since I have some acne on my shoulders and back from the Test that I am running right now.

[Pooks]

What are u doing about it right now?

[kfrost06]

I only get acne after a cycle usually during PCT and then it goes away. In your PCT your hormones are going all over the place trying to find normal and thats a big reason for the acne. I blame alot of it on the SERMs since they are estrogens. Hopefully it will go away in the next couple of weeks, unfortuantely I don't know of any products since it never last long on me I never bother with it.

[Marinos]

I developed major acne on my shoulders, traps, back, and chest. My face is even breaking out more then it normally would. Seems i break out less when I'm on and when im off i have tons of acne. What can i do about the acne? I heard derms dont perscribe accutane anymore. Any other alternitives? thanks

Treating steroid related acne is a bit different (in my experience) to treating regular acne.

I know of at least 6 mates who have asked me about dealing with acne while on cycle and PCT. They ask me because in highschool, i had terrible severe acne on my back, and forehead. Then within 8 weeks of treating it, it cleared up. Everyone took notice, and being teenagers, they came to me for advice.

Within the past 4 moths, i know of at least a dozen acquaintances who jumped on this roid bandwagon (1 person becomes huge, everyone wants to follow). I managed to help at least half of them (those who asked for my advice) with all the product suggestions and research i had done on the subject. None of them developed moderate or severe acne. Only 2 had developed mild acne, mostly on the back (which is difficult to reach).

Here is a copy of an email i sent to a mate, i hope it helps you out:

This is a proper skin regime that will keep you clear while on roids because its designed specifically for DHT related acne. Follow this precisely if u don't want to take any chances with regards to breaking out, preferably 3 months before your actual cycle, and continue using for at least 6 weeks after your PCT. All the research is posted below to prove why this is scientifically proven to work, there is alot of info here, enjoy.

For roids, we need to address the excess DHT, which is a result of the excess testosterone .

For DHT related acne, there is a special product you can buy from america, i ordered 2 bottles, and just got them about 2 weeks ago. This is the product:

http://www.clearogen.com/skin-acne-toner.html

This is the research behind it, and why' its usefull for us (anti-dht properties)

http://www.clearogen.com/research.html

^as you can see, clerogen uses all the best plant extract based DHT blockers to stop the excess roid oil from clogging up pores and causes acne. I recommend using this this cream first thing in the morning, after u finish cleansing.

Again, 1 product may indeed be enough to counteract the DHT related acne, but we wanna play it safe and take no chances. So, we add additional products to our skin regime. Here is an old bodybuilder/roid muncher secret:

http://www.nizoral.com/

yep, nizroal, baldness shampoo. We use this as a face wash, 2 times a day. Why do we use shampoo on our face? Well, the same side affect which causes baldness (too much DHT) is that same shit that casuses acne. Here is the research behind it:

http://www.*************.net/*******...4&artID=999412

^Anthony Roberts is a well known steroid guru, he knows what he's talking about, and everyone i know swears by nizoral shampoo for roid acne. I recomend washing and cleansing ur face with nizaral shampoo morning and night.

So we have two, topical treatments which treat the external skin from DHT. Wouldn't it be wise to also add an oral DHT inhibitor to prevent the acne from forming within our bodies? There are baldness pills (such as Finasteride) people take that block DHT, unfortunatly these only target the scalp (generally type 2 DHT), and dont do much for acne (which is mostly type 1 DHT). So we need a product that does both. Avodart is a strong form of baldness medication that kills the huge majority of both type 1 and 2 DHT, but its very harsh on the body, and will hinder your stregnth and possibly muscle gains (as well as other shitty side affects, such as killing your sex drive and increasing the chance of gyno). Avodart is really overkill, so we need something that does the job without the side affects. We can use nautral alternative for this, such as Saw Palemtto, and Beta Sitosterol.

What is saw Palmetoo and Beta Sitosterol? They are OTC products which are used as alternatives to harsh DHt blockers. They have been clincally proven to block DHT, which means they will help prevent DHT related acne. Here is the research and studies behind them which prove they inhibit DHT:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12006122

http://www.enerex.ca/articles/beta_sitosterol.htm

http://www.priory.com/med/saw.htm

I recomend you take saw palmetto with your beta sitosterol 3 times a day

In addition to fighting DHT, we need to address the other areas of acne. First lets look at how acne is formed:

-Excess oil + dead skin + p.acnes bacteria = clogged pores = acne

The DHT is what causes the excess oil, so we have addressed the problem of oil through the clerogen cream, nizoral shampoo cleanser and DHT inhibitor suppliments. To treat dead skin, we need to exfoliate.

Exfoliate means to remove the dead skin. There is manual exfoliation, and checmical exfoliation. Manual exfoliation is using scurbs, grainial exfoliating face washes or loofahs' to physically reomve the dead skin. Checmial exfoliation is using creams (AHA's or BHA's), skin masks or lotions that slowly melt the dead skin when applied topically onto the skin.

I, personally like to do both;i use a soft bristled toothbrush to manually exfoliate my skin in the morning, and then i use a face mask for 5 minutes at night. You should exfoliate at least once a day, preferably twice (if your skin can handle it).

The next problem is p.acne baceteria. There are 4 main products which kill acne products, they are:

-antiobiotics (need perscription)
-Benzoly peroxide
-Propolis
-Tea trea oil

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2145499
http://www.rirdc.gov.au/comp06/tto1.html
http://www.raysahelian.com/propolis.html
http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=66


there are special antiobiotics available which you need a perscription for (both topical and oral), but other types of over the counter products work just as well. Tea trea oil is good, but you must use 5 percent stregnth of more. Benzoly peroxide is a little bit stronger, u only need the 2.5 percent, propolis is equally as good, plus its anti-inflamtory. I recomend getting a benyzol peroxide face wash (benzac AC @ 5percent), use that twice a day after u wash with your nizoral shampoo, then apply either 2.5 percent BP, or propolis, or 5 percent tea trea oil once a day at night.

And there you go, you effectively break down acne at each possible stage of its development, meaning any major breakouts will be avoided during cycle.

So this is just advice, its not a must do, but if u dont wanna break out, do take these suggestions. So to rap up, there are varying ways you can protect your skin while on cycle. There would be a very basic regimen you can do (for most people), and a more comprehensive regimen (only for those extremley prone to acne, and have strong skin)

the basic skin regimen for a cycle and PCT would be:

Morning:
-Wash your face thoroughly with cool water, gently pat your skin with a towel keeping it somewhat damp but not excessvely dripping in water. Then add a 20 cent piece size of nizoral shampoo to ur wet fingers, wash and rub the nizoral into your skin for 1 minute (it should lather up nicely).

-Pump 1 squirt of clerogen acne lotion onto your fingers, this is more then enough for your whole face. Rub in well.

-Wait 5 minutes, add moisturizer as needed.

During the day:

-you must Drink 8 glasses of water
-optional: take ***** 3 suppliments with each meal
-Optional: Take your saw palmetto and Beta Sitosterol suppliments
-If your workout during the day, wash your face only with water and re-apply the clerogon lotion onto your face.

Night:
-Wash your face thoroughly with cool water, gently pat your skin with a towel keeping it somewhat damp but not excessvely dripping in water. Then add a 20 cent piece size of nizoral shampoo to ur wet fingers, wash and rub the nizoral into your skin for 1 minute (it should lather up nicely).

-You have 3 options: Using a soft bristle toothbrush, gently use a circular motion to rub your skin with the bristles. Start on the left side of your forehead, and move your way to the right of your forehead. Then continue to rub the skin from the right back to the left (so the entire area is exfoliated twice). Do the same for your cheeks. OR. Apply an exfoliating face mask onto your face as per indiviual product directions. OR. Apply AHA (5-10 percent) onto your dry skin.

-Wait 15 minutes. Make sure your skin is dry. Now add your anti-p.acne bacteria cream/lotion of choice to your skin.

-Wait 5 minutes, add moisturizer as needed.


For people prone to bad acne, and who have strong, thick skin that can tolerate harsh products.

Morning:
-Wash your face thoroughly with cool water, gently pat your skin with a towel keeping it somewhat damp but not excessvely dripping in water. Then add a 20 cent piece size of nizoral shampoo to ur wet fingers, wash and rub the nizoral into your skin for 1 minute (it should lather up nicely).

-Wait 5 minutes. Now use the soft bristle tooth brush, and gently rub in small circles around your face. Do the whole face twice. Then dry your face, make sure its not wet.

-Making sure your fingers and face is dry, apply a 10 cent piece size of BP face wash (Benzac AC t percent face wash) onto your fingers, and rub it into your skin for 15 seconds, stop, and let it sit on your skin for another 15 seconds. Then wash off the face wash with water.

-Wait 5 minutes. Let your face dry.

-Pump 1 squirt of clerogen acne lotion onto your fingers, this is more then enough for your whole face. Rub in well.

-If your skin is dry, or irritated, wait 5 minutes and add moistiruzer.

-Take your saw palmetto and Beta Sitosterol suppliments.

during the day:

-Drink 8 glasses of water

-Take ***** 3 suppliments with each meal

-Avoid touching your face, if u sweat alot, towel dry ur face gently.

-Take your saw palmetto and Beta Sitosterol suppliments.

-If your workout during the day, wash your face only with water and re-apply the clerogon lotion onto your face.

At night:

-Wash your face thoroughly with cool water, gently pat your skin with a towel keeping it somewhat damp but not excessvely dripping in water. Then add a 20 cent piece size of nizoral shampoo to ur wet fingers, wash and rub the nizoral into your skin for 1 minute (it should lather up nicely).

-*Note: If you are going to apply a BHA or AHA to your skin at night, skip this part* Apply a face mask onto your face, leave it on as per instructions (each mask is differnet). If doing the aspirin mask, leave on for 5-15 minutes (depends how deep of a calming affect you need). Wash off face mask.

-Making sure your fingers and face is dry, apply a 10 cent piece size of BP face wash to your fingers, and rub it into your skin for 15 seconds, stop, and let it sit on your skin for another 15 seconds. Then wash off the BP with water.

-Make sure your skin is dry. Now add your anti-p.acne bacteriaa cream/lotion of choice to your skin. If you didn't use a face mask earlier, please wait 5 minutes after applying your anti-p.acne bacteria cream, and apply your BHA or AHA cream onto your face.

-Take your saw palmetto and Beta Sitosterol suppliments


And thats it.

the above regime is pretty harsh on your skin, so u need to slowly build up a tolerance to each product. I recomended using the saw palemetto and Beta Sitosterol suppliments straight away, as well as the nizoral shampoo and clerogen. The other stuff, slowly add 1 every 3 days, and start with small amounts, and build your way up. Otherwise u will irritate your skin, and it will feel very tight plus a burning sensation. always add moistuizer if ur feel ur skin needs it. If your skin reacts badly to a product, cease it for a minimum of 3 days, and wait till the irritation totally dispears before re-add it (this time with a smaller amount). Your skin is designed to adapt to things, so it wont hurt the 2nd time as long as u take it slowly and give it time to heal.

[cymruymbyth]

I'm still at the stage of studying AAS.I've decided to use test only for my 1st cycle, but am far from being ready to start as theres still soo much to learn.

As a teenager i didn't really suffer from acne.My skin has a mild oily residue and sometimes a get the odd spot or 2 on my shoulders a day or 2 from cardio.

So...Is it 100% that a person using test will break out? if so,look like the products you state may be an investment plus you know of any uk retailers? so that i wont have to import?

thanks.

[ShadetreeJones]

Two things that really helped me:

1. Loofah on a stick with an antibacterial scrub.
2. Tanning.

[dsw222]

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[cache49]

I got this cream called Benzaclin, script only. Its a topical cream that works well for moderate cases of acne...accutane is avail still from your doctor or almost any online source ive seen....dont ask. Cheers...cache

[peevysteve]

I get the odd breakout even before i started taking steroids and im a bit scared it will come back like it was was when i was younger it was really bad as ive just started steroids at the min im using clearasil ultra and oxytetracycline do you recomend proactive then