Good Or What

[tommyguns1983]

i am 24 six foot two , two hundred and seven pounds and this is my first cycle i am doing 2cc of andropen and 2cc of deca for 10 weeks then i am doing 2cc of sustanon and 2cc of tremblone for 5 weeks i am also taking lots of carbs , protein and efas is this a good stack to gain alot of size and strength

[shifty_git]

You've already posted the same question once fella.

And like what was said in ya other thread, a bad cycle.

[AandF6969]

Depends what "lots of carbs protein and efas" means.

[shifty_git]

Depends what "lots of carbs protein and efas" means.

Exactly what i said in his other thread AandF!

Means nothing.

[AandF6969]

Exactly what i said in his other thread AandF!

Means nothing.

You and I are usually on the same page, Shifty

[tommyguns1983]

i cant find my other thread what should i add or extract from the cycle and why is it a bad stack

[shifty_git]

your other thread
Its My First Cycle

Its a bad stack for many reasons.

Whats your diet exactly? Post it here with macros.

AandF is spot on with his diet advice, so listen to the man.

Without a spot on diet you will be wasting your time and money on steroids .

[tommyguns1983]

my body fat is at around fifteen percent i have been training for two years i have just plateaued using regular supplements i could post my diet i just have to download it

[AandF6969]

my body fat is at around fifteen percent i have been training for two years i have just plateaued using regular supplements i could post my diet i just have to download it

it would probably be a good idea.

[tommyguns1983]

is andropen a bad steroid to use for the first time the reason why i ask is because the monkey who owns the gym swears by it

[shifty_git]

Andropen and sustanon are similar products.. i.e a mix of different estered tests.

Due to the short esters it means it needs to be injected every other day to maintain a constant level..

Some people do get away with twice weekly injections, but fluctuating levels are more likely to give you sides.

Going for a single long estered test like test E or C is much easier to control and twice weekly injections are plenty enough to keep stable levels.

A beginner's cycle would be a single ester test for 10-12 weeks followed by a PCT.

Any longer and it will become harder for your body to recover its natty levels.

Do you have a planned PCT?

[tommyguns1983]

no i havent planned a pct when should i implement it.also i only start this last week i took one 2cc shot of andropen last monday then one 2cc shot of deca on friday then another andropen yesterday should i take a smaller dosage spread throughout the week.i wish i would have looked on here before i started and bought all this stuff.

[shifty_git]

What are the strengths of ya products...

[tommyguns1983]

they are andropen 275 and durabol 200 the andropen is 20 mg test acetate , 90 mg test deconate , 45 mg test propinate , 45 mg test phenylpropinate and 75 mg test cypionate .i didnt look at the sust or trem but iwasnt going to implement them for a while anyway

[shifty_git]

edit that lab name out of that post, cant mention ugl names..

Andro - 550mg per week for 12 weeks.
Deca - 400mg per week for 10 weeks.

Split into twice weekly injections, 1ml of each.

But you MUST make sure you have ya PCT sorted, its the most important part of ya cycle.

And please do post your diet, as if it isnt spot on your wasting ya time and money by doing aas.

[tommyguns1983]

is 550mg the same as 5.5 cc not sure the conversition

[tommyguns1983]

then should i take some time off before starting my sust and trem or should i use something different for my next cycle how much down time is suffient

[AandF6969]

is 550mg the same as 5.5 cc not sure the conversition

Depends on the concentration of your product... if its 100mg/ml it is.

[D-Unit 39]

they are andropen 275 and durabol 200 the andropen is 20 mg test acetate , 90 mg test deconate , 45 mg test propinate , 45 mg test phenylpropinate and 75 mg test cypionate.i didnt look at the sust or trem but iwasnt going to implement them for a while anyway

is 550mg the same as 5.5 cc not sure the conversition

No! According to your post above your Andro is 275mg/ml... 5.5cc would be way too much (1.5g!)

Just take the dose you want to take in mg, and divide that by the concentration of your gear in mg per ML. This holds true for any type of gear.

In this case... you want 550mg/week of Andro, so divide 550 by 275 = 2.0ml

Use the same formula for figuring out your other ones

[D-Unit 39]

Andro - 550mg per week for 12 weeks.
Deca - 400mg per week for 10 weeks.

Split into twice weekly injections, 1ml of each.

Just realized that Shifty was kind enough to do the math for you...

1mL of each 2x per week for the Andro & the Deca.


Oh yeah and.....

you MUST make sure you have ya PCT sorted, its the most important part of ya cycle.