Do cutting roids stop water rention etc from Test?

[CUTLIFTER]

I did a course of 1000mg of Test E for 10 weeks and gained 4 kilos, very pleased, clean gains, my diet is very good.

Then with the same diet and same training I am 7 weeks into a 1000mg Test E and 600mg Primobolan a week.
I have only gained say 1 kilo, but I look much more muscular and vascular and am stronger than ever.
I just dont understand why the 1000mg of Test E hasnt put weight on me.
Does the Prim effect the water retention that comes form the Test?
I realised the Prim would give solid muscle gains, but I didnt realsie it could effect the results of the Test E?

[ChuckLee]

VERY PLEASED??? 1gram of test per week and 4 kilos?
I'm pretty sure you were wrong with your diet mate.
Primo help to build lean muscle but doesn't stop water retention.
Once again, test's not giving you results because you are not eating enough, simple.
What's your diet look like?
BTW, test doesn't manifest bloating to everyone, someone doesn't even notice it.

CL

[D-Unit 39]

Stolen from another thread... but this applies perfectly here:

You're not eating nearly enough to facilitate muscle gain. You need to be eating at least 6 full meals per day. Do you know how many grams of protein/fat/carbs you eat every day? Have a look in the diet forum at the "how to bulk" and "hardgainer?" threads at the top.

Your body needs an adequate amount of calories for growth regardless of if you're on steroids or not. Pretty much all steroids do is speed up protein synthesis. Imagine your body like a house. You can't build a house without enough bricks (calories) no matter how fast your workers can work (steroids).

Think about it... where do pounds of muscle come from... water? air? oil from steroids? the milligrams of powder that are in steroid oils? Does your body violate the laws of physics and create matter from nothing?

NO they come from raw materials you provide your body with, aka FOOD!!!

I can tell you with 100% confidence that your problem is simply not enough calories every day. And maybe your workouts suck too. I was a hardgainer too... until I fixed my diet. Started eating 3500-4000 calories EVERY DAY of clean foods, and guess what? I went from 135 - 185 natural, in 1 1/2 years, with a 1-2% gain in bodyfat. Thats like 4 lbs of fat and 46 lbs of muscle.

That quote may have to go in my signature for awhile

[CUTLIFTER]

I dont agree with what you have said, I am very pleased with four kilos, I have very clean diet and have got very clean gains. I could have gained 8 kilos and 4 of them would be water and fat, that doesnt interest me.
You comments arent really relevant to my question. I have the same diet and the same amount of Test, the only thing that has changed is the Prim. I am interested to know, why the increase in weight hasnt occurred again?

[Njord]

I dont agree with what you have said, I am very pleased with four kilos, I have very clean diet and have got very clean gains. I could have gained 8 kilos and 4 of them would be water and fat, that doesnt interest me.
You comments arent really relevant to my question. I have the same diet and the same amount of Test, the only thing that has changed is the Prim. I am interested to know, why the increase in weight hasnt occurred again?

Because you are not eating enough.

[ChuckLee]

I dont agree with what you have said, I am very pleased with four kilos, I have very clean diet and have got very clean gains. I could have gained 8 kilos and 4 of them would be water and fat, that doesnt interest me.
You comments arent really relevant to my question. I have the same diet and the same amount of Test, the only thing that has changed is the Prim. I am interested to know, why the increase in weight hasnt occurred again?

I've gained 8 Kilos with 500mg of test/week, half dose, very CLEAN gains, even leaner now. You could have gained 10 clean kilos if your diet was in check mate. That was definitely a waste of gears imo.

CL

[ChuckLee]

You keep asking the same question even if you already know the answer!!!

[mister bator]

I did a course of 1000mg of Test E for 10 weeks and gained 4 kilos, very pleased, clean gains, my diet is very good.

Then with the same diet and same training I am 7 weeks into a 1000mg Test E and 600mg Primobolan a week.
I have only gained say 1 kilo, but I look much more muscular and vascular and am stronger than ever.
I just dont understand why the 1000mg of Test E hasnt put weight on me.
Does the Prim effect the water retention that comes form the Test?
I realised the Prim would give solid muscle gains, but I didnt realsie it could effect the results of the Test E?

Not to flame you, but it seems you're cutting instead of bulking. That explains why you don't gain weight but do look better.
If you wanna gain weight...eat more!
Primo doesn't stop aromatizing so NO, cutting roids do not stop water retention. Winstrol does tho.

1 kilo isn't much, even on a cutting diet. What's you're fat% before and after your cycle ?

[jbonez19]

1 gram test-e = 1lb

[CUTLIFTER]

I've gained 8 Kilos with 500mg of test/week, half dose, very CLEAN gains, even leaner now. You could have gained 10 clean kilos if your diet was in check mate. That was definitely a waste of gears imo.

CL

You cant say that I should gain 10 kilos, everyone is different.
And I think its crazy to say it was a waste of gear, i gained good muscle and strength.
Im happy with 4 kilos, Id rather 1 quality kilo than 10 kilos of bloated crap.

[CUTLIFTER]

Not to flame you, but it seems you're cutting instead of bulking. That explains why you don't gain weight but do look better.
If you wanna gain weight...eat more!
Primo doesn't stop aromatizing so NO, cutting roids do not stop water retention. Winstrol does tho.

1 kilo isn't much, even on a cutting diet. What's you're fat% before and after your cycle ?

I dont mind if you flame me. just here to expalin my experiences and get somehelp.
Thank-you for answering my question, primo does not stop aromatizing.
So next is any other reason for not gaining the weight this cycle with diet the same? The Test E is from the same batch.
I dont know my body fat percentage, but low.
As another point i love this cycle I look more muscular which is exactly what im after and lifts are up.

[mister bator]

I dont mind if you flame me. just here to expalin my experiences and get somehelp.
Thank-you for answering my question, primo does not stop aromatizing.
So next is any other reason for not gaining the weight this cycle with diet the same? The Test E is from the same batch.
I dont know my body fat percentage, but low.
As another point i love this cycle I look more muscular which is exactly what im after and lifts are up.

If your diet is the same you should have upped the kcal's a bit cause more muscle needs more food. Only reason that your not gaining weight is your low calorie intake. I would gain more naturally than you're doing on cycle in that amount of time just because I eat more.

[CUTLIFTER]

If your diet is the same you should have upped the kcal's a bit cause more muscle needs more food. Only reason that your not gaining weight is your low calorie intake. I would gain more naturally than you're doing on cycle in that amount of time just because I eat more.

Maybe you would, I very much doubt it though, I would rate myself in the top 1% of people who use my gym for look and strength, so i find it hard to believe that, unless you are some kind of genetic freak?
Anyway to me weight gain is only relative to what you gaining, fat and water doent interest me.

[mister bator]

Maybe you would, I very much doubt it though, I would rate myself in the top 1% of people who use my gym for look and strength, so i find it hard to believe that, unless you are some kind of genetic freak?
Anyway to me weight gain is only relative to what you gaining, fat and water doent interest me.

Anyone can gain more than 1 kilo pure muscle in 10 weeks naturally. Don't need to be a genetic freak for that bro.