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    Cycle Double check

    Hey guys
    Just want to get ur last opinions on this before i put the final word in on the order


    Age: 22
    Weight: 165
    Height: 5'9
    BF: 8%
    About 3000-4000 calories a day,
    3 protein shakes
    good diet, good cardio,
    Now, before you guys jump at my weight, before i started working at, at 5'9 i weighed 112lbs, so i am considerably big for my natural weight, meaning im that lucky guy who looks ripped on matter how much he eats.

    so my cycle will look like this

    Sustanon, Clomid and Nolvadex

    Weeks 1-8 Sustanon 250 1 per week
    weeks 11 100mg clomid, 40mg nolvadex
    week 12 50mg clomid, 20 mg nolvadex
    week 13 25 mg clomid, 20 mg nolvadex

    and the onto the serious protein and diet to keep my gains

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    bro sust should be shot eod to keep test levels stable. i would bump your dose up to 500mgs/week and split that up into eod injections.

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    i dindt really want to get up to that much for a week...and wouldnt eod mean 750 a week...

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    no bro. you can stick at 250 a week if you really want to im just saying due to the short esters in sust you really need to shot eod. you dont have to shot a full ml everytime you inject. you take the total amount that you want to use a week and just split that does into eod inj. ie.. if you wanted to take 250mgs per week then shot 1/3 a cc every other day.

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    how much more of a gain can i except shooting 500mg as opposed to 250 based on my stats
    and based on my stats what can i gain shooting 250

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    and i see what u mean
    thanks btw for the eod tip
    i may do that

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    well its diff for everyone. some ppl see great gains off of 250/week. so really its all up to you.

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    imo 250mgs if diet is a bulker and a good 1, id say 15 pounds with 500mgs 25pds

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    10lbs difference eh?
    wow!
    i have a feeling because of my thinness and my ability to eat as much as i want and not gain any fat...that i dunno if i can gain 15 lbs
    Any suggestions

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    bro i dont care how fast your matabolism is if your diet is on point and your using aas you will have solid gains. and if thats you in your avatar then you look pretty good bro exspecially considering that you came up from 112lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slamjamnet View Post
    Hey guys
    Just want to get ur last opinions on this before i put the final word in on the order


    Age: 22
    Weight: 165
    Height: 5'9
    BF: 8%
    About 3000-4000 calories a day,
    3 protein shakes
    good diet, good cardio,
    Now, before you guys jump at my weight, before i started working at, at 5'9 i weighed 112lbs, so i am considerably big for my natural weight, meaning im that lucky guy who looks ripped on matter how much he eats.

    so my cycle will look like this

    Sustanon, Clomid and Nolvadex

    Weeks 1-8 Sustanon 250 1 per week
    weeks 11 100mg clomid, 40mg nolvadex
    week 12 50mg clomid, 20 mg nolvadex
    week 13 25 mg clomid, 20 mg nolvadex

    and the onto the serious protein and diet to keep my gains

    u gotta take sust eod.. if not your blood levels are gonna be unstable leading to alot of sides such as severe acne and most notabaly high blood pressure also when blood levels are unstable.. i would shoot sust at 175mg Eod..

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    My first cycle was sust 300 (it had an extra 50 mg of prop) once a week. Unfortunately, I started way to early thanks to an not-so-knowledgeable friend who had just finished his first dbol pyramid....I regret it because I was too young, didn't know how to diet, and hadn't been working out consistently long enough, but I still went from 185 to 215 after ten weeks.

    Damn, I regret that now. I was 19... and I am sure that a lot of that weight was fat.

    But given that you have your diet in check, I think that you should be good with that once a week. As far as the eod day thing, I think it would be optimal but not 100 % necessary. I would suck to be shooting a 1/3 cc 3 times a week, but that is your call. Although I do believe the fluctuations caused by once a week injections make lead to increased estrogenic side effects...i might be wrong though

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    ok i will be shooting 175 eod
    Getting Bigger, what happened when u were 19?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NATE0406 View Post
    bro i dont care how fast your matabolism is if your diet is on point and your using aas you will have solid gains. and if thats you in your avatar then you look pretty good bro exspecially considering that you came up from 112lbs.
    thats me
    thanks
    i have a pic of when i was 112
    its INSANE!

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    I'd recommend posting your diet up in the diet forum for critique to make absolutely sure its 3k-4k calories.... chances are if you can't get above 165 naturally then there are serious problems with your diet, and steroids aren't going to magically make you gain muscle.

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    coming from 112 lbs, thats a lot of weight on a VERY thin frame... i will post it tho..thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by slamjamnet View Post
    coming from 112 lbs, thats a lot of weight on a VERY thin frame... i will post it tho..thanks
    Just trying to help bro... a lot of times people waste money on a cycle to get shitty results when there are MAJOR holes in their diet and they're eating at their maintenance level of calories or under... and they wonder why the hell they can't gain muscle, even on a cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slamjamnet View Post
    ok i will be shooting 175 eod
    Getting Bigger, what happened when u were 19?
    I went from about 185 to 215 then back down to about 190. I didn't know what pct was back then....*sigh*. It is hard to tell what I even gained though. I ate like crap. I ate a lot, but it was a lot of sandwiches on white bread and checkers and things like that. I do recall carrying a lot of bloat. Probably due to estrogen from fluctuating test levels.

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    have u had any long term effects?
    decresaed test?
    etc
    or r u ok

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