Thinkn bout sumthin new4me

[Schmidty]

How many of u just use test as TRT and use other aas(tren, deca, primo, orals and mast ect) to really gain ur size n definition??? My friends who have guided me n my aas have always used higher test then anything else and id like to try something new if enough people have as or better results. Did u get as much size, strength and definition out of a cycle like this or was it noticable weaker without the test being so high? Did u have as many sides??? What compounds did u use? The cycle im lookn at now is

1-16 test e 300mg ew
1-14 deca 600mg ew
1-14 eq 600mg ew
1-4,12-16 drol/dbol 50/30mg ed
N a lota people are going to say not to use more then 1 oral at a time, but i beleive that all c17aa/methyl orals are just as toxic as the other. so 50mg of 1 aas +30mg of another aas is just as toxic as 80mg of 1 aas.

[No One Knows]

250-350mg of test is way more than you make naturally in a week so I don't see a point in going beyond 350mg/week anymore.

[Schmidty]

250-350mg of test is way more than you make naturally in a week so I don't see a point in going beyond 350mg/week anymore.

do u use other aas?

[Schmidty]

bump...

[Schmidty]

K... I was thinkn since people do deca only cycles and have really good results then why not try the deca, eq with a tiny bita test ya no...

[PEWN]

i run low dose of test compared to other compounds...example

35mg/ed test prop
100mg/ed tren a
100mg/ed masterone


this was my last cycle can it went great kept good sex drive and motivation the whole time. Running high dose of test does not really work for me.

[200byjune]

yup i like your proposed cycle but i would switch it around and kickstart with dbol and end with drol

[Schmidty]

yup i like your proposed cycle but i would switch it around and kickstart with dbol and end with drol

I was thinkn bout that to because drol leans me out a lot and id like to have a cleaner finish.

[ChuckLee]

How many of u just use test as TRT and use other aas(tren, deca, primo, orals and mast ect) to really gain ur size n definition??? My friends who have guided me n my aas have always used higher test then anything else and id like to try something new if enough people have as or better results. Did u get as much size, strength and definition out of a cycle like this or was it noticable weaker without the test being so high? Did u have as many sides??? What compounds did u use? The cycle im lookn at now is

1-16 test e 300mg ew
1-14 deca 600mg ew
1-14 eq 600mg ew
1-4,12-16 drol/dbol 50/30mg ed
N a lota people are going to say not to use more then 1 oral at a time, but i beleive that all c17aa/methyl orals are just as toxic as the other. so 50mg of 1 aas +30mg of another aas is just as toxic as 80mg of 1 aas.

I am a great supporter of cycles on HRT doses of test and I'm helping out a lot of guys on this. Just because it seems I can gain more on a high anabolic dose (deca, tren or even an oral only) with a low test dose.
Keeping the test high will just increase my sides and worsen the other anabolic's ones, so I switch on a HRT even gaining more than using test on high doses. Maybe this is due to my already high natty test, so if I add too much of the exogenous form it saturates my receptors or stuff.
I think I could have some real gains from test on elevated doses like 700/800mg per week, and this doesn't worth at all, so I prefer to keep high those compounds that give me visible and solid gains.
Once I ran test E at 250mg/week with an high dose of anadrol for 6 weeks. I had almost no sides and amazing gains. Cutted fat as well.
Hope this helps.

CL

[Schmidty]

I am a great supporter of cycles on HRT doses of test and I'm helping out a lot of guys on this. Just because it seems I can gain more on a high anabolic dose (deca, tren or even an oral only) with a low test dose.
Keeping the test high will just increase my sides and worsen the other anabolic's ones, so I switch on a HRT even gaining more than using test on high doses. Maybe this is due to my already high natty test, so if I add too much of the exogenous form it saturates my receptors or stuff.
I think I could have some real gains from test on elevated doses like 700/800mg per week, and this doesn't worth at all, so I prefer to keep high those compounds that give me visible and solid gains.
Once I ran test E at 250mg/week with an high dose of anadrol for 6 weeks. I had almost no sides and amazing gains. Cutted fat as well.
Hope this helps.

CL

Thanx! thats w/i was think2

[nowdenlid]

deca 800mgs ew with 200mgs test ew for 14 weeks.

know a couple of guys who run cycles like this and they are fkucing huge

maybe a drol kicker at 150mgs ed

[Schmidty]

deca 800mgs ew with 200mgs test ew for 14 weeks.

know a couple of guys who run cycles like this and they are fkucing huge

maybe a drol kicker at 150mgs ed

^^^I like that cycle, have u run it urself b4though???

[No One Knows]

do u use other aas?

yes..ive never done a test only cycle. dbol, tren, winny, all my favs.

[ChuckLee]

deca 800mgs ew with 200mgs test ew for 14 weeks.

know a couple of guys who run cycles like this and they are fkucing huge

maybe a drol kicker at 150mgs ed

Good bro, this is the idea I'd have about my next bulker:
Test C @ 300mg/week
Deca @ 700mg/week
Dbol @ 60mg/week

CL

[nowdenlid]

^^^I like that cycle, have u run it urself b4though???

i havent bro but i am going to

sounds great dont it ,800mgs deca man that will add some nice mass and if diet is really clean you can drop a 1 0r 2 in body fat too..

anyone got ant thought on this?
weeks 1-4/6 100-150mgs drol

weeks 1-14 800mgs deca

weeks 1-15 200mgs test e

week 12-17 50/100mgs winny ed

thought the winny would be nice to harden up at the end

also hcg weeks 10-14 @ 500ius e3rd day just to help recovery.

any feed back on that cycle would be great /good or bad?

[ChuckLee]

Looks very good, let us know when you're gonna start bro, I'm curious.
Good Luck!
CL

[nowdenlid]

thanks chuck ....

i wont be doing that untill next year now as i am 26 days into dbol/sust/winny now.

i was going to do this next year.

primo 800-1000 mgs ew weeks 1-16

test p 100mgs eod weeks 9-17

what one would you go for man?

primo/prop

or

deca /test/drol

i know some i am lickley to get more mass form deca/test/drol but will the gains be as nice as primo because i hear some very good things about it...

[ChuckLee]

thanks chuck ....

i wont be doing that untill next year now as i am 26 days into dbol/sust/winny now.

i was going to do this next year.

primo 800-1000 mgs ew weeks 1-16

test p 100mgs eod weeks 9-17

what one would you go for man?

primo/prop

or

deca /test/drol

i know some i am lickley to get more mass form deca/test/drol but will the gains be as nice as primo because i hear some very good things about it...

Wow! Me too, next year, next bulker.
Maybe we'll start two parallel logs like dupa and rana did!
You have to choose between two completely different cycles bro...
What will your goals be? Lean mass, bulk? How will your diet be as well?

[nowdenlid]

well i am 5,9 9% 198lbs now

hope to be 210 7-8% by a couple months after end of this cycle (dbol/sust/winny)

so by the time i start next feb/march i wanna be sitting around -

215-20 under 7% i really do think i can get to this by the start of next years cycle ..

diet will be great ,i am very luckey because its very hard for me to gain fat but at the same time i lose mucale very easy if my diet is not maintained(4000+ cals ed-350g pro)

so at the moment my diet is very good but not top draw and i will be working on it over the comeing months ............

OVERALL GOAL IS 235-245 5 %
i would like to start a log with you man that would be great

[ChuckLee]

Gains on Primo are very slow and they say it doesn't worth the cost.
I've never tried it and I think I'm not gonna try it since there are gears like deca and tren that work way better and cost even less.

CL

[ChuckLee]

well i am 5,9 9% 198lbs now

hope to be 210 7-8% by a couple months after end of this cycle (dbol/sust/winny)

so by the time i start next feb/march i wanna be sitting around -

215-20 under 7% i really do think i can get to this by the start of next years cycle ..

diet will be great ,i am very luckey because its very hard for me to gain fat but at the same time i lose mucale very easy if my diet is not maintained(4000+ cals ed-350g pro)

so at the moment my diet is very good but not top draw and i will be working on it over the comeing months ............

OVERALL GOAL IS 235-245 5 %
i would like to start a log with you man that would be great

Thanks a lot for your apreciation bro.
it sounds you are kinda hardgainer, that's a lot of cals to maintain your weight.
You could take a lean mass diet/cyle for your purposes, trying to keep your bf below the single-digit mark, so it should be a bulking stack with Test/Deca/Drol and a pretty lean diet, like 3500/4000cals, around your maintaining amount.
Man, your overall goals are just insane! Hope you'll reach them in short term tho.

CL

[ChuckLee]

I Agree On The Primo But I Already Have Like 400 Amps From A Trip To Turkey Last Year...........

I Think I Will Go With Deca/drol/test Sounds Like It Could Pack On Some Mean Size

East Europe trips are so juicin' cool!

[ChuckLee]

[ChuckLee]

I know, it's so easy to lost quality weight while increasing "junk" mass...

[Schmidty]

I know, it's so easy to lost quality weight while increasing "junk" mass...

Its not so hard to get it back once uv had it b4though. Thank god 4muscle memory and good gear...