Will I Live?

[FatalThoughts]

Hi everyone. I'm new to this Forum and don't get it wrong if I said something stupid. I used to be a Personal Trainer at Bally's but it was paying almost nothing so I got a new job but now I don't work out like I should. I want to take my body to another level. Finally got what I think a reliable source for my gear.
Age=29
Height=6.2
Weight=215
Diet=I don't have one now but during intensive work outs I eat very balanced and proportional meals.
I have good genetics maybe because I'm Russian I'm naturally built. And I don't
have to work as hard as others to get same results.
Never Used anything but a pro-hormone 1-TEST by VPX got it from the Vitamine Shop but now it's baned.
So If this source that I found on the net comes through I will be on my way to what I really want to do so much.
These is my plan. Please tell me If I'm missing anything or what planning wrong?

Deca-Durabolin(mg/week)=400mg a week first 5 weeks then 200mg week 6 and 7
Test. enanthate(mg/week)=750mg a week first 2 weeks then 500mg week 3-5
Dianabol(mg/day)=40mg a week for first 2 weeks then week 3-4=30mg and 5-6=20mg
Nolvadex(mg/day)=20mg a week for 8 weeks
Hcg(i.u./ week)=10000 week 8 and 5000 week 9
Clomid(mg/day)=100mg week 8-9 the week 10-12 50mg

Please give some info on it and maybe I could verify my source without breaking forum rules. Thank you.
I neew more mass I want like 40 lbs. I can always cut with no problem but gaining mass I have to work so ****ing hard

[Big]

welcome.
there is something not right about your chart, is that how it is supposed to look? week 8 is 20mg deca and 10000mg test? week 9 is 5000mg deca and 100mg test?

[Phate]

you did it on excel didn't you, when i tried that it posted all my info left margined

try writing it like this
1-12 test e 500mg/week 2x a week: where the 1-12 is when your going to use it, in this case week one of your cycle to week twelve, then the compound, then how many mg/per injection followed by how often you are going to inject

do you know your bf%

btw, a beginner cycle is normally test enth at 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks, adding deca to start with is not normally advised because if you get sides you won't know what caused it or how to treat it, thought the dbol kickstart is a good idea

[FatalThoughts]

I had to fix the format of my graph It was looking fine but when posted got a little screwed up. Now Its the way it should be. I dont know how often to inject probably twice a week Mon. and Thur?

[FatalThoughts]

Yeah my BF=9.5 I guess it could be a little higher since it's been a while since I measured it.

[Big]

ok, if I'm reading that right, 7 weeks of deca, 5 weeks of test e, and 6 weeks of dbol? if so, that's an awful cycle and a waste of gear.
Try this:
test e 500mg/week 1-12
pct start week 2 weeks after last test injection

[FatalThoughts]

My gear came out to $750 all together and I will have some left over unless I mess up doing it, which I shouldn't. Also thinking about buying whole bunch of canned chicken and tuna on top of protein vitamines and fish oil.

[Big]

we don't discuss prices here, but it's safe to say your planned cycle is simply awful. Test e starts to kick in around week 5, the week you plan to stop taking it. Deca should be run at least 10 weeks, although it should not be run on a first cycle. Test needs to be run for at least 2 weeks after you stop the deca so your pct start times will line up.

[FatalThoughts]

ok, if I'm reading that right, 7 weeks of deca, 5 weeks of test e, and 6 weeks of dbol? if so, that's an awful cycle and a waste of gear.
Try this:
test e 500mg/week 1-12
pct start week 2 weeks after last test injection

so u suggest no Deca just Test.E 500mg for 1-12 and then start PCT? I just want the best results I can get. I read a lot of posts where people's 1st cycle was a complete waste. Thats why I want to make the best of it. But u deff suggest Test.E?

[Phate]

detection time for test enanthate is 3 months from the last injection, if your audition is close then i would recommend something that has a shorter detection time, btw deca's detection time is up to 18 months so i definitely wouldnt run that

[FatalThoughts]

Crap. I have to re-plan everything now.

test e 500mg/week 1-12 will it be enough? Or is there something else I can stack?

[Big]

so u suggest no Deca just Test.E 500mg for 1-12 and then start PCT? I just want the best results I can get. I read a lot of posts where people's 1st cycle was a complete waste. Thats why I want to make the best of it. But u deff suggest Test.E?

most people who complain about their cycle being a waste don't realize that over 80% of their gains will come from diet and training and less than 20% will come from gear. Typically those that expect the gear to work miracles are disappointed. I am not saying that you fit into that category at all, just clarifying why those that are disappointed typically are.

[Phate]

when is your audition?

[Big]

Crap. I have to re-plan everything now.

test e 500mg/week 1-12 will it be enough? Or is there something else I can stack?

you could include dbol at 40mg/day week 1-4.
The reason I recommend starting with one compound is in case you have negative sides, you will know which gear to stay away from next time. If someone runs their first cycle with 3 or more compounds then has an adverse reaction, they wouldn't know what to blame. I like a single compound first cycle, add a second compound second cycle, etc. This is just general however, many have no adverse reactions. Regardless, with fresh receptors, proper diet and training, great gains can be made from test only.

[FatalThoughts]

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[FatalThoughts]

you could include dbol at 40mg/day week 1-4.
The reason I recommend starting with one compound is in case you have negative sides, you will know which gear to stay away from next time. If someone runs their first cycle with 3 or more compounds then has an adverse reaction, they wouldn't know what to blame. I like a single compound first cycle, add a second compound second cycle, etc. This is just general however, many have no adverse reactions. Regardless, with fresh receptors, proper diet and training, great gains can be made from test only.

I got great results using BSN stack of No-Xplode, Nitrix and CellMass and thats nothing compare to gear That I plan to use. I gained 10 lbs muscle and my bench went up about 15lbs. I had to work very hard for it and diet alone was very expansive. Using gear I hope to achieve better results with lower cost.

[Phate]

then test e might work, just remember if you run 12 weeks of test e then it will be around 20 weeks before the test is out of your system completely

Big, check me on this and make sure i'm right, if this is the case wouldn't it be better for him to run an 8-10 week prop cycle since it's detection time is 2-3 weeks and the cycle could be shorter so less chance of testing positive

[Big]

then test e might work, just remember if you run 12 weeks of test e then it will be around 20 weeks before the test is out of your system completely

Big, check me on this and make sure i'm right, if this is the case wouldn't it be better for him to run an 8-10 week prop cycle since it's detection time is 2-3 weeks and the cycle could be shorter so less chance of testing positive

definitely prop would be better if he is unsure about testing time. good call.

[FatalThoughts]

then test e might work, just remember if you run 12 weeks of test e then it will be around 20 weeks before the test is out of your system completely

Big, check me on this and make sure i'm right, if this is the case wouldn't it be better for him to run an 8-10 week prop cycle since it's detection time is 2-3 weeks and the cycle could be shorter so less chance of testing positive

What's a prop cycle

[Big]

What's a prop cycle

test prop is a short-ester test that enters and leaves your system faster, but should be shot every day.

[Phate]

prop and enth are the esters that are attached to testosterone, pure testosterone needed to be injected 1-2x a day, by attaching an ester you can inject less frequently as your body has to break down the ester to get the test

testosterone propionate is a shorter estered test that you have to inject at 50-75mg/ every other day, it's detection time is 2-3 weeks vs. 12 weeks for test enth, so you have less chance of it still being in your system

you can also run a shorter cycle with test prop because it "kicks in" faster then test enth, meaning that you start to see gains faster so you only have to run it for 8-10 weeks

also, esters take up mgs in a solution, meaning 100mg of test enth will yield 69.9 actual mgs of test and 30.1mg of ester per 100mg while prop yields 83.72mg of test and 16.28mg of ester per 100mg

[Andro9]

crap i didnt scroll all the way down i wrote the same as above post so i edited and posted useless shit lol

[Phate]

good point, i just figured since it's his first cycle and he has the audition he could inject less frequently for ease and have a shorter cycle to make sure he's clean

Andro and Big are right though, everyday injections will cause more stable blood test levels which means less sides during your cycle

[FatalThoughts]

Wow. I had no idea. Thank you. 100mgs everyday for 12wks=8400mgs=almost a grand. And thats Testosterone Propionate correct? + include dbol at 40mg/day week 1-4. And you think I should be fine if I follow this. I apologize for asking so many questions Its just the sooner I order my gear sooner I can start.

[FatalThoughts]

And how come I cant PM? Did i do something wrong?

[Big]

should be good to go.

[Phate]

it's okay, this forum is about gaining knowledge, we all start somewhere
you won't need dianabol if you use prop because since it's half like is 2-3 days it will kick in quickly, normally about 1-2 weeks i believe Big or someone check me on that as i don't want to give him bad info

[Phate]

you need 100 posts and 45 days on the forum to PM

[FatalThoughts]

does this sound shady? because I was told to always ask for refernces?

Alex,

we're well known supplier and not some scamm artists.
All our products are 100% real and of highest quality.
We don't use our customers as referals, all our
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feel if we passed your info to somebody we don't know
and to be honest we don't know you. We always
recommend new customers to place small order first to
test our service, products quality and gain trust.

[Big]

it's okay, this forum is about gaining knowledge, we all start somewhere
you won't need dianabol if you use prop because since it's half like is 2-3 days it will kick in quickly, normally about 1-2 weeks i believe Big or someone check me on that as i don't want to give him bad info

agreed that he could get by without the dbol kicker with prop. depending on his goals it may puff him up a bit more than just the prop would, but much of that would be water weight anyway. I notice strength gains quicker when starting with dbol even with prop, but the difference is not really substantial.

[Big]

sorry, we don't permit any source or ordering talk here on the open boards.

[Phate]

thx for the info check

[Big]

thx for the info check

no problem bro, you're spot on as usual.

[FatalThoughts]

sorry, we don't permit any source or ordering talk here on the open boards.

Sorry I thought it wasnt direct. Thanks for advice. Now I have to look for different gear. And what should I use Nolvadex and Clomid? 100mg Clomid for a week after my last injection and Nolvadex 1omg week 7-12?

[Phate]

read phneedo's pct in the pct section and anthony roberts pct, they're stickys

phneedo's should work for you, anthony's is for when you use a 19nor like deca that is really supressive

[FatalThoughts]

pic of me..thanks for help im still confused but i'll just take my time
you see the difference when i used bsn ? i got a lot more toned

[Phate]

well one thing about bsn products like no-xplode is they give really good pumps which can make you look more muscular for a while, and bsn is a good company that makes good products so you probably did gain a good bit of muscle and possibly lost some fat so you looked more toned, btw, what was the question in your last post?

[FatalThoughts]

I have 1 more question
Test prop 400mg a week for 12 weeks? inject every other day 100mg?
(maybe) d-bol 40mg daily for 1-4 weeks (maybe)
PCT = phneedo's
Did i get it right?

[200byjune]

yes and you could drop the prop 2 weeks if u want

[FatalThoughts]

sweet. Thank u. All I have to do is gear up. Wish me luck. I so don't wanna give my money away. But hey. We all take risks.