First Cycle... what do the pros think?

**santiagr** · 04-16-2008, 10:59 PM

Well Ill start out with the stats:
Age: 29
Height: 5' 4"
Weight: 145-150 lbs
BF %: Not sure between 11%-15%
Training: About 1yr and 1/2

Week 1-12 - Quadra Test - 250 mg/ml 1 Shot per week/12 weeks (Eod Friday's)

Week 1-12 - Nandrolone Decanoate - 300 mg/ml 1 Shot per week/12 weeks (Eod Friday's)

Week 1-4 - D-bol - 15mgs EOD/4 weeks

Week 9-12 - Stanzolol - 50 mg/ml

post cycle: starting 2 weeks after last injection
Week 13-17 - Nolva - 20 mgs ED/4 weeks (40mg 1st week)
Week 13-17 - Clomid - 100 mg ED/1 week

I Follow a strict diet and go to the Gym 3-4 times a week...do about 30 min of cardio before i hit the weights... i'm thinking of stacking the Tes and Deca (1cc of each) and at the end for the 9-12 weeks stacking all 3 (Tes,Deca, and winny 1 cc each)

this forum is great and any advice will be appreciated..... thanks fellas

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 04-16-2008, 11:09 PM

test only works well for first cycle.

**wukillabee** · 04-16-2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by santiagr

Well Ill start out with the stats:
Age: 29
Height: 5' 4"
Weight: 145-150 lbs
BF %: Not sure between 11%-15%
Training: About 1yr and 1/2

Week 1-12 - Quadra Test - 250 mg/ml 1 Shot per week/12 weeks (Eod Friday's)

Week 1-12 - Nandrolone Decanoate - 300 mg/ml 1 Shot per week/12 weeks (Eod Friday's)

Week 1-4 - D-bol - 15mgs EOD/4 weeks

Week 9-12 - Stanzolol - 50 mg/ml

post cycle: starting 2 weeks after last injection
Week 13-17 - Nolva - 20 mgs ED/4 weeks (40mg 1st week)
Week 13-17 - Clomid - 100 mg ED/1 week

I Follow a strict diet and go to the Gym 3-4 times a week...do about 30 min of cardio before i hit the weights... i'm thinking of stacking the Tes and Deca (1cc of each) and at the end for the 9-12 weeks stacking all 3 (Tes,Deca, and winny 1 cc each)

this forum is great and any advice will be appreciated..... thanks fellas

Ur plan sounds terrible my friend, have u done ay research about what ur talking about or are all these compounds and doses what ur dealer told u trying to take all ur money? If i were u id try to grow naturally, peep out the diet forum and get some pointers, train for at least 3-4 years straight before thinking of steroids . Only train for less than a year and a half and want to tart roids at 155 pounds? Ur as bad as the guy on here with his thread titled aromasin help.

**200byjune** · 04-16-2008, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by wukillabee

Ur plan sounds terrible my friend, have u done ay research about what ur talking about or are all these compounds and doses what ur dealer told u trying to take all ur money? If i were u id try to grow naturally, peep out the diet forum and get some pointers, train for at least 3-4 years straight before thinking of steroids. Only train for less than a year and a half and want to tart roids at 155 pounds? Ur as bad as the guy on here with his thread titled aromasin help.

NOW YOU MY FRIEND ARE COMPLETLY WRONG AND THAT IS UNACEPTABLE BEHAVIOR AND IS UNECCEPTIBLE ON THIS BOARD. HE IS 5'4 SO HIS STATS ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. AS FOR THE CYCLE TEST AND DBOL IS THE WAY TO GO. AND WHY DO YOU HAVE EOD WHE YOUR SHOOTING IT ONCE A WEEK? DO YOU NO WHAT EOD MEANS?

**200byjune** · 04-16-2008, 11:31 PM

sorry about caps

**santiagr** · 04-16-2008, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by 200byjune

NOW YOU MY FRIEND ARE COMPLETLY WRONG AND THAT IS UNACEPTABLE BEHAVIOR AND IS UNECCEPTIBLE ON THIS BOARD. HE IS 5'4 SO HIS STATS ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. AS FOR THE CYCLE TEST AND DBOL IS THE WAY TO GO. AND WHY DO YOU HAVE EOD WHE YOUR SHOOTING IT ONCE A WEEK? DO YOU NO WHAT EOD MEANS?

oops...the EOD while shooting was a mistake on my part...

**santiagr** · 04-16-2008, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by wukillabee

Ur plan sounds terrible my friend, have u done ay research about what ur talking about or are all these compounds and doses what ur dealer told u trying to take all ur money? If i were u id try to grow naturally, peep out the diet forum and get some pointers, train for at least 3-4 years straight before thinking of steroids. Only train for less than a year and a half and want to tart roids at 155 pounds? Ur as bad as the guy on here with his thread titled aromasin help.

I've been training longer than that....just not as committed as i have been for the past 1 1/2 yrs....

**AnimalGear** · 04-16-2008, 11:40 PM

Do test E 500mg/wk and Dbol frontload at 30mg/day until week 4

**wukillabee** · 04-16-2008, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by 200byjune

NOW YOU MY FRIEND ARE COMPLETLY WRONG AND THAT IS UNACEPTABLE BEHAVIOR AND IS UNECCEPTIBLE ON THIS BOARD. HE IS 5'4 SO HIS STATS ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. AS FOR THE CYCLE TEST AND DBOL IS THE WAY TO GO. AND WHY DO YOU HAVE EOD WHE YOUR SHOOTING IT ONCE A WEEK? DO YOU NO WHAT EOD MEANS?

Im just saying i dont think hes quite ready my friend. U gonna condone to someoneto start roids at 29 yrs old and only been lifting weights for almost a year and a half he says? I dont think thats good advice. Im not trying to put this guy down, just saying almost a year and a half training isnt enough to jump to roids in my book.

**200byjune** · 04-16-2008, 11:44 PM

id go 40mgs. animalgear whos that in your avy

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 04-16-2008, 11:51 PM

test only for 12 weeks followed by your PCT is great for a first cycle.

**AnimalGear** · 04-16-2008, 11:52 PM

It Mr. Lee Priest, and he's lookin' pretty damn good there, isn't he?

**200byjune** · 04-16-2008, 11:54 PM

oOo i see it he does look really good and young with a fresh cut.arms looked syntholized. lol

**wukillabee** · 04-17-2008, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by AnimalGear

It Mr. Lee Priest, and he's lookin' pretty damn good there, isn't he?

Yep, lee looks way ripped! Is arms do look a oversized but lee priest has always had crazy arms/forearms.

**Thug Nasty** · 04-17-2008, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by santiagr

Well Ill start out with the stats:
Age: 29
Height: 5' 4"
Weight: 145-150 lbs
BF %: Not sure between 11%-15%
Training: About 1yr and 1/2

Week 1-12 - Quadra Test - 250 mg/ml 1 Shot per week/12 weeks (Eod Friday's)

Week 1-12 - Nandrolone Decanoate - 300 mg/ml 1 Shot per week/12 weeks (Eod Friday's)

Week 1-4 - D-bol - 15mgs EOD/4 weeks

Week 9-12 - Stanzolol - 50 mg/ml

post cycle: starting 2 weeks after last injection
Week 13-17 - Nolva - 20 mgs ED/4 weeks (40mg 1st week)
Week 13-17 - Clomid - 100 mg ED/1 week

I Follow a strict diet and go to the Gym 3-4 times a week...do about 30 min of cardio before i hit the weights... i'm thinking of stacking the Tes and Deca (1cc of each) and at the end for the 9-12 weeks stacking all 3 (Tes,Deca, and winny 1 cc each)

this forum is great and any advice will be appreciated..... thanks fellas

I think you have it backwards. Ideally, you want to lift, then do cardio.

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 04-17-2008, 12:34 AM

^^^^ agreeed

.. doing cardio after your workout while you heart rate is up benefits fat loss.

**ChuckLee** · 04-17-2008, 12:41 AM

C'mon guys I know he's short but he's still 150lbs and has trained for 1 1/2 years!
There's no way he could be ready for steroids , the natural growth takes YEARS of intense training and accurate dieting. Your advices guys would be right but this is not the case to follow them.

CL

**wukillabee** · 04-17-2008, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

C'mon guys I know he's short but he's still 150lbs and has trained for 1 1/2 years!
There's no way he could be ready for steroids , the natural growth takes YEARS of intense training and accurate dieting. Your advices guys would be right but this is not the case to follow them.

CL

Thank you! I thought i was the only one reading this thread right.

**ChuckLee** · 04-17-2008, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by wukillabee

Thank you! I thought i was the only one reading this thread right.

No problema.
CL

**santiagr** · 04-17-2008, 08:27 AM

I really appreciate u guy's giving me ur opinions.... any advice is always helpful.... thanks

**longhorn814** · 04-17-2008, 08:33 AM

no need for anything more than test for your first cycle..4 compounds is way too much..if you get sides, you wont know what caused them!! I would suggest doing weights first, then your cardio too

**santiagr** · 04-17-2008, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

no need for anything more than test for your first cycle..4 compounds is way too much..if you get sides, you wont know what caused them!! I would suggest doing weights first, then your cardio too

thanks for the advice... i understand that some of you dont think i'm ready and i appreciate the advice ..but i need opininons on the cycle itself... thanks..(not trying to be unappreciated)