Going on a bulker and staying cut/ripped

[Michael Scott]

Is it possible to run a bulker while maintaning your abs and staying ripped ? Or are your abs garaunteed to go right away from the bloating. I plan on running Test-E, Deca , and D-bol. Is there any way that I can stay ripped while on cycle, assuming my diet is clean and I'm not over eating ?

[Andro9]

ok since no one else wants to tell you what you should already know, i will... there is no way to bulk and cut at the same time(obviously) and most likely your abs will not be visible if you are doing a bulking cycle and using a long ester like test e and you will gain quite a bit of water off the dbol so while you are taking dbol you will not be "ripped" looking...

[whiteronniewannabe]

amen to that Andro9. From personal experiance and those of mates I know, dbol is really good at getting you put on lots of weight. The draw back is it goes on everywhere, especially your stomach. thats why good created Clen for cutting straight after!!

[Michael Scott]

ok since no one else wants to tell you what you should already know, i will... there is no way to bulk and cut at the same time(obviously) and most likely your abs will not be visible if you are doing a bulking cycle and using a long ester like test e and you will gain quite a bit of water off the dbol so while you are taking dbol you will not be "ripped" looking...

I'm well aware that you cannot bulk and cut at the same time, that's not what I was asking. I just wanted to know if it was possible to maintain an already ripped look while running a bulking cycle.

What if I were to use an AI on cycle, how much would that help ?

Or are there any other compounds besides test-e,deca , dbol that would yield similar results but without the bloating ?

[Michael Scott]

I can live without the Dbol

[mx3]

I'm well aware that you cannot bulk and cut at the same time, that's not what I was asking. I just wanted to know if it was possible to maintain an already ripped look while running a bulking cycle.

What if I were to use an AI on cycle, how much would that help ?

Or are there any other compounds besides test-e,deca, dbol that would yield similar results but without the bloating ?

Diet will dictate how much fat you gain. you can do a clean bulk fewer cals than an all out but they will still be reasonably high and all the food you eat should be very lean and carbs should stay moderate and timed. also cardio can be implemented if you think your gaining too much fat. also an ai can be used throughout to minimize bloat. I have bulked many times while still maintaing my abs, the thing is you will gains will be less with a clean bulk 10 or 12lbs instead of 20-25 lbs with an all out but the use to a clean bulk is to keep bf% close to what it was before and it definately can be done at the cost of some muscle. also yes there are other compounds that would fit your situation better, like test prop, npp, tren , winstrol . they all keep water weight to a minimum and they can all be used in a bulk. Diet will dictate everything.

[boxer1]

^^^^agreed, i always like to clean bulk using compounds like prop, tren , mast. mx3 is right you won't gain as much weight but if your diet and training is spot on the weight will be quality lean muscle rather than tons of water. To me 10lbs of quality lean muscle is better than 13lbs of muscle with 7lbs of water and fat. So in answer to your question yes it is poss.

[Prada]

With the compounds you are using it will lead to temporary edema. Which might temporarily hide the abs but keeping the diet clean and using an AI can help. Remember if you do it right once the water sheds you'll still be lean

[topnotch]

as everyone else has stated...diet dictates everything...if you do a clean bulk you can still stay pretty lean...you can also gain muslce while losing fat at the same time...that's very possible...it's called a recomp diet...then when it comes to the water retention if you are drinking lots of water and lowering your sodium intake the retention will be minimal