Not Afraid Of Needles But!!!

[respek]

I am planning on taking 50 mg of tbol/ed for 8 wks. I am not afraid of needles but I have been told that tbol is really good stuff with minimal side effects. What do you guys think? I don't want hair loss.

[bigswole32]

Oral only cycles are not worth it. only oral only cycle i would do would be var.

[200byjune]

Oral only cycles are not worth it. only oral only cycle i would do would be var.

var only yes.im thinking about doing my first oral only of tbol. im kinda excited but then not lol. and im not going to lie like the others i hate injecting lol.

[respek]

Many people have made great gains with a tbol only cycle. Anavar is really weak.

[bigswole32]

have you every cycled before? i have had the most clean gains from anavar from all orals combined. and yes i used tbol before also.

[respek]

I have cycled before with test and eq. Maybe I should take 25mg/tbol daily with 40 mg of anavar daily?

[bigswole32]

ive done a tbol/var only at 60mg tbol and 50mg var. i had some pretty decent gains.

[kfrost06]

I was very impressed with a var only cycle too. Not huge but solid gains and the recovery from a var cycle was fast and easy. I like and would recommend a var only cycle for certian cases but var can be considered expensive for the gains you get. Before, ugl's var cycles were for the rich only. I think if you were to do a dbol only vs a var only, during the cycle dbol gains would blow away the var gains but a month after the cycles the var user would have more gains then the dbol user.

[bigswole32]

yea i still think its a waste. throw in some prop

[respek]

you mention throwing in prop but remember I am not looking to get huge I just want to gain some solid, lean/hard muscle and drop my bf. My stats 220lbs, 15%BF. Also, I am prone to hair loss and can not take finasteride because I get severe sexual side effects.

[james21]

tbol is great for oral only cycle, var I hated. tbol works great and low sides i didnt get any. Just make sure your gettting a good brand

[kfrost06]

tbol is great for oral only cycle, var I hated. tbol works great and low sides i didnt get any. Just make sure your gettting a good brand

just curious, why did you hate var? I loved the stuff but then again I hate tren and everyone else loves it.

[kfrost06]

you mention throwing in prop but remember I am not looking to get huge I just want to gain some solid, lean/hard muscle and drop my bf. My stats 220lbs, 15%BF. Also, I am prone to hair loss and can not take finasteride because I get severe sexual side effects.

If your prone to MBP, balding, then you should stay away from var and all other DHTs.

[Kansas City Boy]

Var only cycle with the correct mg daily can have great gains!!! I saw mostly lean gains so dont expect to put on major mass. But my strength gains skyrocketed quickly. And i was taking minimals dosages for a pretty short time. Mainly just wanted to try it to see if I liked it