Anavar or Tren xtreme?

[wes135]

Im considering doing a cycle of anavar, except i know it cost a ton and ive heard strength gains arn't that great unless you stack with something else. just wanna gain 10 lbs. i did an eq cycle an year ago and ive done pro hormones in the past too and im trying to stay away from the androgenic stuff if i can and get something easy on the joints (im an athlete, ive heard var is easy on joints). you think its worth droppin the cash for anavar or go with somethin like tren xtreme that i know works (i have a friend taking it) but is a lil more androgenic than id like...any help/opinions would be great.

[KZRSOIZE]

stats please....

[wes135]

6'0 205, 15% bf, training for 4 yrs, 21 yrs old

[shifty_git]

You done any cycles b4?

Tren is a VERY strong compound with potentially VERY harsh sides.

[wes135]

yea eq... the thing is this is a legal ph (for now) and the active ingredient is 19-Norandrosta- 4,9-diene-3,17 dione, suppose to be similar to trenbalone. i dont know the chemical difference between the two and if it would be worth trying this or paying for var.

[james21]

thats not even close to what tren is/ would be

[wes135]

really.... well what would it be closer to? i know it works im just afraid of the sides and losing my gains and trying to balance out if the strength gain from var would be worth the money or not. any other opinions?

[jstraw428]

pro hormones are a waste of money in my opinion...................you said you did a cycle of EQ a year ago, what mgs and duration of cycle....what results did you get????

[jstraw428]

The pro hormone Tren extreme, probably does not have the same sides or effects as trenbolone, I would better use my money on some more food and maybe some supp instead of wasting it on PH....

[wes135]

its was about 500 mg i believe for about 6-7 weeks. i had great results except for i lost a lot after even with pct. I would consider doing it about but loss of gains, wanting to avoid sides like estrogen converging, and im a tested athlete stray me away from it...

[jstraw428]

EQ needs to be run a minimum of 10-12 wks......i highly doubt you saw any real gains from the EQ at such a low dosage for such a short period of time......EQ stays in your system for a very long time.....You should do a bit more research on this subject, especially since you say you are a tested athlete......

[wes135]

hahah well believe what you want but i saw great results for a seven week cycle, truth be told i did it mainly to rehab my torn hamstrings playin at my jc with no testing. i could have bee wrong on the dosage my supplier gave me the shots but i believe it was 500 at the least. I and yes i have done a good amount of research on this that its why i am looking into anavar and why i am on this thread asking the question... thanks

[jstraw428]

sounds like you have done a lot of research......

[wes135]

umm yea im tryin... im sorry i dont know the chemical differences, thats why im here...i could have swore thats what these forums are for...any other opinions out there?

[tripmachine]

Don't worry about straw, he's just hungry so he's a bit cranky... anyway I personally think anavar alone wouldn't be TOO beneficial.... it's very pricey and you don't want to be on too low of a dose or else that is just going to be money thrown away. If you get on var I would suggest throwing some test prop in as well.... I think those two stacked would do better than just var alone. make sure you are running a decent amount of var ed as well.... I don't know dossages for var really but I think possibly 60-80mg per day? Might want to search on the forum for proper var dosing. Maybe someone else can chime in with some INFO instead of looking for a bickering battle

[wes135]

btw this thread is about anavar and the the supplement tren xtreme...not my past cycle of eq...

[wes135]

thanks trip, im hearing at least 50-100 mg ed for an effective dose, which come out to a lot of $....im just sketch about running test...both for sides and too much weight gain.

[jstraw428]

test run at low doses does not show bad sides at all.......i have run test at 350mg-1500mg of test per week, and have found that right around 500mg is my ideal dose.....The weight gain can and should be determined by diet.....if your diet is in check, then the weight you do gain will be quality......the extra water weight will come off shortly upon stopping your cycle......DONT SHY AWAY FROM TEST, IT IS YOUR FRIEND....

[tripmachine]

test run at low doses does not show bad sides at all.......i have run test at 350mg-1500mg of test per week, and have found that right around 500mg is my ideal dose.....The weight gain can and should be determined by diet.....if your diet is in check, then the weight you do gain will be quality......the extra water weight will come off shortly upon stopping your cycle......DONT SHY AWAY FROM TEST, IT IS YOUR FRIEND....

i agree completely! test is a must if you're going to run anything make sure test is in your stack... You can use test to cut, bulk, etc... test isn't going to make you bloated or get too big.... your DIET WILL

G'luck!

[wes135]

if i run the test would it even be worth running the var with it? that a lot of $$$. what kind of test would you recommend?

[longhorn814]

if i run the test would it even be worth running the var with it? that a lot of $$$. what kind of test would you recommend?

I would go with test prop/var..something like this

1-8 50-75 mg/day of prop..or you can shoot it EOD
1-8 50-80 mg/day of var

start PCT 3 days after last shot of prop

[Ashop]

Im considering doing a cycle of anavar, except i know it cost a ton and ive heard strength gains arn't that great unless you stack with something else. just wanna gain 10 lbs. i did an eq cycle an year ago and ive done pro hormones in the past too and im trying to stay away from the androgenic stuff if i can and get something easy on the joints (im an athlete, ive heard var is easy on joints). you think its worth droppin the cash for anavar or go with somethin like tren xtreme that i know works (i have a friend taking it) but is a lil more androgenic than id like...any help/opinions would be great.

You can gain 10lbs with a simple ANAVAR/CREATINE stack easily

[wes135]

thanks ****, have you used var before? if so how long a cycle and at what dosage? how were your strength gains?

[austin4023]

I've read about people taking 60-80 mgs of anavar daily for like 8 weeks... usually they report a solid strength gain and a weight gain of like 8-10 lbs. Ive also seen people saying it gives them some serious pumps/vascularity unfortunately I have never used it wes so I cannot say what it did for me. I would however recommend a low test dosage because some people report testosterone shutdown with anavar so like 200-300mg of test a week should be sufficient to prevent shutdown and possibly add a few more gains. And with this low of a dosage you will most likely see no side effects. Hope this helps bro

[wes135]

appreciate the input bro, im considering it... i jsut hate the idea of unnatural test and cutting off the natural production of mine... even tho var does slightly. i mean im only 21 you think its still ok for me to take it?

[wes135]

on another note, not to go off topic, why do you think var is so expensive if it isnt even that powerful??

[austin4023]

yea i think you would be fine as long as you run a mild PCT like nolvadex your test levels should shoot right back up.... Yea var is pricy i was gonna run a cycle but couldnt find any for a good price.... as far as the price im not sure bro, maybe because it causes about 0 side effects and you keep about all of your gains, but thats just me speculating. maybe someone else here could help out

[wes135]

interesting.... well thanks for the input bro i appreciate it. im gonna do a lil more research and think about it a little longer. and by all means any more advice or if anyone else has any other thoughts im all ears. thanks