does anyone ever do tren ace for 4 weeks? just as a kickstart for a test P cycle?
does anyone ever do tren ace for 4 weeks? just as a kickstart for a test P cycle?
I dont have huge goals for this cycle and I think 4 would be enough
If you dont have huge goals...then why would you want to run tren?
from what i've read 8 weeks is sweet spot.
dont see the point is using tren as kickstart for prop as you need some sort of test ran alongside tren
You really dont need a kickstart for prop anyways as it is very quick acting compared to test cyp and test eth
run it 8 weeks to get the most out of it....4 weeks is hardly any time at all. it will act fast but why deny yourself the pleasure of 8 weeks of gains?
well here is the original plan
wk 1-8 test prop 100mg EOD
wk 1-6 tren ace 150mg EOD
wk 5-9 winstrol 75mg ED
but I was afraid I would blow up huge on tren (as I tend to w dbol) and I dont really wanna get too big...the cycle is supposed to be a cosmetic one
I ran a2wk cycle back n dec and jan, it worked awsome... I dont remember my dosages though.
Test prop 1-2
tren ace 1-2
winny 50mg ed 1-2
A lot of what i gained had to do w/muscle memory but the cycle worked great. I even droped a lil more then a minute on my 2mile run...
I have also done a few4and6wk cycle, sum with tren. I liked them but i get sick of ed shots really quick
I ran my tren at 100mg ed for two weeks, before i started taking 75mg Test P ed.....i felt i could get use to the tren sides befor i amplified it with some test......it seemed to work pretty good,......didnt feel as bad as when i start both Prop and Tren A together.....
lil slim, check your pm
A two week cycle.........why would anyone even bother......that just doesnt seem enough to do anything at all......
you will not blow up on tren it is diet dependent, you blow up on dbol because of water retention, tren will not cause alot of water retention. Tren for four wks will definately be worth while, I have had awesome results the first four wks of tren but at least six would be optimal. there is no need to kickstart a test p cycle but Tren would work well along side it. I like your original plan. Testp 8wks, tren 6 wks, winni 4 wks. personally I would change the time split of the compounds so your running the tren and winni at the same time,(start them same time) those two compounds work well together.
Last edited by mx3; 04-22-2008 at 02:41 PM.
I front loaded the short esters and bulked as much as possible while i was home. It might not work for everybody but i went back to AIT significantly larger then i was when i left. Before that 2wks u couldnt tell i was a big guy from loosing all my size n boot. But when we all came back people were like WTF did u use while we were gone??? Like i said, most was muscle memory. And i imgine since my calories went from about 2000at the most back to 4500-5000 ed helped a lot to. It was all muscle i gained back though...
Actually let me dig through my posts and ill fiond my doses on the cycle...
Tren is one of my favorite compounds, and i use it to cut and to bulk (this all comes down to diet)........But tren will cause almost not water retention as you stated before.....it should give you a chisled stone look...Tren is some quality muscle......Dbol on the other hand is all water retention.....
How the hell do you think you can frontload test with tren???
i dont think that, i have just found that starting a cycle of prop and tren a was easier for me to adjust to the sdes, as oppossed to starting them together and already getting the amplified sides of tren because of the test.....also i get real bad prop flu and these two things combined make me feel like crap for bout a wk.......i found it easier to adjust this way........
the prob is my job this summer has me with my shirt off all day and people will notice if I throw on 20 lbs in a very short period...and there the type of people you wouldnt want to notice somthings up...so im going to watch my diet and aim for a chisled look.
goals: add maybe 7.5 lbs and drop 3% body fat
im pretty sure you could do this with 4 weeks tren and 6 weeks prop...dont you think?
or would I need to run it longer in order to keep gains?
for the goals you are trying to accomplish, i would run prop and tren for 6-7wks.......short and sweet....
yup. i would run it like
1-6 150mgs eod prop
1-6 150mgs eod tren
1-6 50mgs ed winny
that sounds pretty good!
I'll let you know what I decide...today I rolled my ankle sooo bad playing b-ball it looks like theres a baseball hanging off the side, which F's my cardio plan...
do it on the recumbant bike...... i continued to do cardio on that, even after i broke my ankle
Just in the last weeks of tren 100mg ed 1-6
Test prop 1-8 50mg eod
Gains were great, strength is great, it was all I had time for...traveling.
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