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    Whats Wrong doint a winnie only cycle.

    Been working out for 10 years or more. Haven't done any roids. Want to cut down a little. Wondering why people are saying the its a bad idea.
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    I'm considering a test winnie cycle in the next three months but I heard winnie alone is not gonna give you solid gains you can keep.

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    Winnie is suppressive. You need to stack with it test. For your first cycle I would go with test e or c at 500mg per week. Cutting will depend on diet not on winnie.

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    you can run winny alone..ive done it, however you need to realize that winny isnt some magic compound thats gonna shred you up..diet and cardio are the important factors in getting cut..personally a low dose of test prop and winny makes a way better cycle than winny alone

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    Will I need to take any Blockers with Test. My Diet is really good. Not extremely but good enough. But If i take winnies every other day @ 50mg, what should the low dose of test be. For how long too.

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    winny needs to be taken every day..if youve never cycled before I suggest just doing a test only cycle first..need to see how you react to test first but I suggest you work on your diet before you do anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814 View Post
    winny needs to be taken every day..if youve never cycled before I suggest just doing a test only cycle first..need to see how you react to test first but I suggest you work on your diet before you do anything
    Why he's 11% BF

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    11% Was a estimate. I prob am less, In work i walk about 5 miles a day. Do cardio at the gym for 30min. And do a high intensity work out with hardly no rest. Pretty strong for my weight and just want to loose that little extra i have. My diet is good just cheat once a week. Have to live a little. But With test do i need to take a blocker of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YDB99 View Post
    11% Was a estimate. I prob am less, In work i walk about 5 miles a day. Do cardio at the gym for 30min. And do a high intensity work out with hardly no rest. Pretty strong for my weight and just want to loose that little extra i have. My diet is good just cheat once a week. Have to live a little. But With test do i need to take a blocker of some sort.
    my bad thought you said your diet wasnt good enough..what kinda blocker are you referring to? an estrogren blocker?

    Typical first cycle is 500mg/wk of test e for 10-12 weeks followed by proper PCT starting 14 days after last shot of test..you dont want to block all of the conversion of test to estrogen..some estrogen is actually beneficial to getting good gains..you could throw in 50mg of winny ed for the last 5-6 weeks of you want to as well

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    A low does of Test would be 200mg? So if i wanted to run Winny 6 weeks along with a low dose at the same time would that be allright?

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    what kind of test? prop, cyp, enanthate ? If you use prop you can do something like this

    1-8 100 prop EOD
    1-6 50 mg winny ED

    start PCT 3 days after last prop shot..if you use enanthate or cyp..you need to go at least 10, preferarbly 12 weeks

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    Am I the only guy to get limp dick from winnie only cycle?Seriously,am I?

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