does letro affect joints?

[boss4romdabay]

ive been doing some letro treatment for a mild case of gyno before my next cycle, and its been about 7 days and my body is starting to have aches. my joints have been killing me here and there. i was wondering if anybody else have had joint problems while on letro?

[OnT]

Never happened to me but its a side that can happen.

[shifty_git]

Lower estro that much can have that effect as estro helps the joints.

[shifty_git]

To quote..

Estrogen : The first hormone we need to keep an eye on. Many AAS convert to estrogen via the aromatization process. Some AAS are worse than others. Also, estrogen spikes after a cycle. High levels of estrogen leads to gyno, water retention, fat storage etc. Estrogen plays a key role in progesterone related gyno. We either block its receptors with SERMS or reduce its production with AIs. We watch estrogen levels during a cycle and in PCT. Lowering estrogen too much will mess up your blood lipids. Letting it get out of control will cause sides like gyno, water retention etc. Estrogen plays a role in IGF-1 levels, may lower IGF-1 when blocked with a SERM. Estrogen is also beneficial hormone when bulking, promoting higher androgen receptor concentrations (!). It also is beneficial in another way - its supposed to act as an anti-inflammatory - this means blocking or reducing it too much during a heavy bulking cycle can result in injury to joints. Obviously different estrogen levels are desired for different goals, and it is not always good to block its action or its production. Usually, while bulking, estrogen is allowed to rise unless gyno or water retention (leading to high blood pressure) becomes a problem. When cutting and shedding water and lifting a little lighter (contest prep for example) estrogen is usually dropped with an AI. Proper diet and training can help the bad side effects high estrogen can have.

From
PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

[boss4romdabay]

kay thanx guys, shifty ur one bad mofo!

[Dog-Slime]

To quote..

Estrogen : The first hormone we need to keep an eye on. Many AAS convert to estrogen via the aromatization process. Some AAS are worse than others. Also, estrogen spikes after a cycle. High levels of estrogen leads to gyno, water retention, fat storage etc. Estrogen plays a key role in progesterone related gyno. We either block its receptors with SERMS or reduce its production with AIs. We watch estrogen levels during a cycle and in PCT. Lowering estrogen too much will mess up your blood lipids. Letting it get out of control will cause sides like gyno, water retention etc. Estrogen plays a role in IGF-1 levels, may lower IGF-1 when blocked with a SERM. Estrogen is also beneficial hormone when bulking, promoting higher androgen receptor concentrations (!). It also is beneficial in another way - its supposed to act as an anti-inflammatory - this means blocking or reducing it too much during a heavy bulking cycle can result in injury to joints. Obviously different estrogen levels are desired for different goals, and it is not always good to block its action or its production. Usually, while bulking, estrogen is allowed to rise unless gyno or water retention (leading to high blood pressure) becomes a problem. When cutting and shedding water and lifting a little lighter (contest prep for example) estrogen is usually dropped with an AI. Proper diet and training can help the bad side effects high estrogen can have.

From
PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

So what would be the best thing (supp) to take to help in his situation?

[boss4romdabay]

[Wavelover]

You should have tappering up and down with letro to prevent estrogen crash and rebound that affect your joint

[shifty_git]

So what would be the best thing (supp) to take to help in his situation?

Check out ya supp's supplier under there joint care section.

Plenty of things like cod liver oil will help.

[boss4romdabay]

You should have tappering up and down with letro to prevent estrogen crash and rebound that affect your joint

actually i did taper up, like i said im following cbinos gyno thread

[Schmidty]

I get all kinds achs and pains when i ue letro, and i just feel like a pile of horse shit to pot it off...