new user and i need some help for a cutting cycle

[matthew2212]

hey guys well i have revised my goals i want to shred up i am 5'9 and weigh 172 and am very athletic i run about 3-6 miles everyday (not by choice) but anyways i eat relatively healthy and take in a good amount of protein(100%) whey low cal and i have two bottles of 10ml tren do i need something else to shred and i also need a good pct but any insight would help thanks guys ( about two months ago i came off a sust 250 cycle and liked it alot but now i would like to shred up )

[NATE0406]

how old are you? and have you ever used any aas before?

[longhorn814]

do NOT use tren alone for starters..its a terrible idea..use the search button and you'll see why..first off post up your diet with totals cals and pro/fat/carb..i guarantee it needs a lot of work..many people think they have a good diet, but when its analyzed it needs lots of improvement..besides you only weigh 170lbs..why do you want to cut? you should already be lean

[matthew2212]

well i am twenty two years old and i guess this would be my first aas cycle (not entirely sure what that is ) but i am lean but not shred i gotta tire effect going on lol but i wanna get cut up like a real cut up and yeah i need to work on my diet

[NATE0406]

have you done any research on tren ???

[longhorn814]

well i am twenty two years old and i guess this would be my first aas cycle (not entirely sure what that is ) but i am lean but not shred i gotta tire effect going on lol but i wanna get cut up like a real cut up and yeah i need to work on my diet

work on your diet as steroids do not burn fat..diet and cardio will cut you up..steroids are used to preserve muscle while on a caloric deficit

[Kratos]

I can run and road bike on tren but it sucks and I'm way slower...It's painful, don't do it.

[biggerguns]

There is other types of roids that will help you get cut up besides tren .

[matthew2212]

the only reason i have tren is cause i got 2 10ml vials from my friend who has taken 4 cycles of various things but he gave it to me and i wanna use it cause i have heard only good things about it but, i also have a question on where to inject it cause i am pretty sure that he is wrong he only rotates form his right arm to his left i mean from what i have been reading that is not the best thing i mean can you smart guys help a brother out please thanks also i have been working on a diet but honesty i dont know the best kind of diet for this cycle please help me out guys

[longhorn814]

you realize you need to run test with tren ? tren is one of the most supressive steroids there is..its a great compound, but has lots of side effect and you need to understand them first..go to diet forum and start reading

[matthew2212]

ok i have a question about that what do you suggest for test? like sust or deca cause i have good access to them both but i was going to use thea cutting diet that Rambo posted in the diet forum it lays out the basics and i can change it accordingly to my person what you think help me out please i need it

[millionairemurph]

imo tren kills your cardio down to zero. I couldnt do shit when on it. I was in great shape, able to run several miles or spar jiu jitsu for 2 hours straight or box 8 rounds etc.... tren kicks in and bam! within 2 weeks i couldnt walk up stairs and talk at the same time and had to breath out of my mouth.

[longhorn814]

deca is not test and sust is a blend of 4 different esters of testosterone ..these are simple questions which indicate you need to do more research..use a single ester such as test e, cyp, or prop..you can cut or bulk on almost any steroid ..really depends on your diet

[matthew2212]

ok well i looked into the cyp and prop but i cant decide between them as well as how much to purchase this is one of my problems i have some tren and was going to take 1cc eod but how do i introduce the prop or cyp into the mix and i am also under the impression that i should use the cyp or prop longer than the tren am i correct or way off help me out thanx guys

[biggerguns]

ok well i looked into the cyp and prop but i cant decide between them as well as how much to purchase this is one of my problems i have some tren and was going to take 1cc eod but how do i introduce the prop or cyp into the mix and i am also under the impression that i should use the cyp or prop longer than the tren am i correct or way off help me out thanx guys

Test cyp or en should be the base of your cycle. It should be around 400-500mg weelky for 10-12 weeks. Then you introduce the tren . I dont know what kind of tren you have but if its tren ace then you should inject that eod at about 60-75 mg. And alot of people here say not to run tren longer than 6 weeks. Its alot of needles with tren in the mix.

[SaSqUaDgE]

i really dont thin your ready for aas at all just my opinion though you need to do alot of research

[matthew2212]

i am trying man its a slow process though i am not doing this for 2 weeks to a month so hopefully i will learn alot more until then but i have a question again ha but yeah biggerguns said test cyp or test en what about prop i read that it was one of the better single ester test's out there why not run that i just read a little bit on test prop and it said that tren was a great stack for it so why not run tren, and prop as my gear? and you said to run test for 10-12 weeks BEFORE i introduce tren and run that for how long

[Darksyde]

punctuation and grammar are your friends.

[matthew2212]

Wow thanks man i just need to have some questions answered ha

[_007]

just from experience tren is hard on you unless you have some experience with aas. Tren is gonna kick your ass. The sides are harsh sweating, not sleeping, fatigue as well as some mental aspects that are hard to explain & thats not including shutting down your bodys ability to produce test on its own for a period of time and the potential liver damage. I tried it twice before a successful cycle both times i broke my work out routines & it took me way to long to recover. Everyone is different but this stuff is no joke. Im no expert but thats my two cents. If your experienced & do everything right its an awsome steroid . but needs to be run with test forsure or your wife will be pissed.

[matthew2212]

haha yeah i like my nuts and being able to get it up but i was gonna run test prop with it i read that it is a good stack so

[Mr. Warpath]

that Tren will kill your cardio. Prop and Masteron has been a good cutting cycle for me so far.