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    need help bad.

    hi there everyone
    im a newbie to the steroid world and i have just finished my first course which as been 400mg a sustanon per week.
    i seem to have made some decent gains but since startin the second course i have got to a point and not made anymore gains can anyone put my mind to rest and tell me why this could be??

    thankyou

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    stats, workouts are you eating how much and what etc...

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    Whats ya age, stats, lifting experience etc?

    Try upping ya caloritic intake.

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    how long did you run your first cycle for? did you do a PCT and take adequate time off?? what is your diet like?

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    age - 22
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    weight 14 stone
    eating 4-5 meals per day which include chicken,weatabix,eggs on toast,beans etc.
    trainin mon,tues,thurs,fri
    rest days wednesday,saturday,sunday

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    bin trainig without steroids for over a year, my first cycle lasted 7 weeks and took 3 weeks off before startin next cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    bin trainig without steroids for over a year, my first cycle lasted 7 weeks and took 3 weeks off before startin next cycle

    wow I suggest you stop everything right now..youre gonna mess yourself up..do you even know what PCT is? my guess is no..youve basically thrown your body all outta whack by running sust for 7 weeks and taking only 3 weeks off and starting again..it takes 3 weeks alone for the sust to clearn your system..you then need to do PCT for another month or so to get your natural test levels working again and you neeed to take adequate time off to allow your body to get used to being normal..you need to educate yourself as your putting very powerful chems in your body and you have NO idea what they do

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    read everything in here for starters

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814 View Post
    wow I suggest you stop everything right now..youre gonna mess yourself up..do you even know what PCT is? my guess is no..youve basically thrown your body all outta whack by running sust for 7 weeks and taking only 3 weeks off and starting again..it takes 3 weeks alone for the sust to clearn your system..you then need to do PCT for another month or so to get your natural test levels working again and you neeed to take adequate time off to allow your body to get used to being normal..you need to educate yourself as your putting very powerful chems in your body and you have NO idea what they do
    Well said longhorn.

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    so what shud i start doing??
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    so what shud i start doing??
    cheers
    stop everything and do a PCT to get your body back to normal and while youre at it learn how to eat to build muscle..read this for starters

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

    the more you screw around with your hormones and not doing PCT sets you up for a myriad of trouble..impotence, sterility, depression, etc..all the signs of low testosterone caused by improper steroid use

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    age - 22
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    weight 14 stone
    eating 4-5 meals per day which include chicken,weatabix,eggs on toast,beans etc.
    trainin mon,tues,thurs,fri
    rest days wednesday,saturday,sunday
    Your diet absolutely needs to be revised. Check the diet forum for this.

    CL

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    so what shud i start doing??
    cheers
    Researching.

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    Start here.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

    Start with Diet and training tips...
    Then once there all 100% in order move onto compounds, basic cycles, and PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    yes i know i need to do research but i can never understand forums and book and things i would like someone to help me and tell me what i should start to do please.
    someone thats got some now how.. PLEASE
    if you have problems understanding the basics of this game then youre definitely not ready to be using them!!

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    yes i know i need to do research but i can never understand forums and book and things i would like someone to help me and tell me what i should start to do please.
    someone thats got some now how.. PLEASE

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    so why can someone start helping me then?
    this is a forum and all im asking for is help please. the above is what ive been told to do buy my local source..
    please correct me and help me.

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    how long shud i be on steroids for each time?
    how long should i come off steroids for each time?
    wat food should i include in my diet?

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    Check out

    http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=14

    (this thread has gone in random order for some reason)

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    please read every link in this thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

    it will answer a lot of your questions..

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    isnt there anyone out there that can tell me what i should be doing without readin post after post??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    isnt there anyone out there that can tell me what i should be doing without readin post after post??
    We are not going to spoon feed you.

    If you can't be bothered to do the research you have no right in using AAS.

    Most guys here have researched for years.

    Sounds like you just want a 'quick magic fix'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    isnt there anyone out there that can tell me what i should be doing without readin post after post??
    no one is going to spoon feed you..this is some serious stuff youre messing with..you need to learn what the hell youre doing..are you that lazy that you can read this stuff yourself?

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    i read everything I could on steroids for at least 6 months before I ever even took them..there are some guys that have been reading about them for years now and still havent taken them..knowledge is power..you will get a lot more outta steroids, diet, training, etc if you take the time to educate yourself on the subject..i agree with shifty..sounds like youre just looking for a quick fix and youre not gonna find one as youre now finding out by your lack of gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    bin trainig without steroids for over a year, my first cycle lasted 7 weeks and took 3 weeks off before startin next cycle
    7 weeks? lol you should read up more brotha

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    so whats the point in the site if people that are more knowledged than others dont wanna help the begginers??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    so whats the point in the site if people that are more knowledged than others dont wanna help the begginers??
    see my post above ^^^^


    and to answer your question bro, new members expect everything to just be handed to them, people that have been on this board for a while are helping all of you new guys just by typing up all those DAMN stickies but nobody ever reads em


    let me ask you something.....if you spend days typing somethin to make one's life easier and then once youre done they dont even bother lookign at it would you even THINK about helping them again? NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814 View Post
    i read everything I could on steroids for at least 6 months before I ever even took them..there are some guys that have been reading about them for years now and still havent taken them..knowledge is power..you will get a lot more outta steroids, diet, training, etc if you take the time to educate yourself on the subject..i agree with shifty..sounds like youre just looking for a quick fix and youre not gonna find one as youre now finding out by your lack of gains
    thank you, ive read about steroids for 3 years now, you know what im taking now? nothin, i still dont feel like i know even half about AAS

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    so whats the point in the site if people that are more knowledged than others dont wanna help the begginers??
    theres a plethora of information for you to read on here..thats what this site is for..we have shown you a ton of stuff to read..i'll tell ya what..send me your gear and I'll take it for ya as well!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    so whats the point in the site if people that are more knowledged than others dont wanna help the begginers??
    We have given you help.

    You need to understand the compounds you are putting in your system so you can properly utilize them.

    When you were at school and had exams did someone read out the answers to you? NO.

    You have to learn and understand these things yourself.

    And there are plenty of links in this thread to help you on your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    how long shud i be on steroids for each time?
    how long should i come off steroids for each time?
    wat food should i include in my diet?
    how long? depends on what youre taking.....'var 6 weeks approx, winny 8wks approx, test 10-15 wks

    you should come off for as long as your previous cycle lasted = if you had a 10 week cycle you need to be off for 10 weeks MINIMUM

    what foods? clean foods, meat, smart carbs, but then again are you cutting or bulking? bro not being a dic* but you havent done ANY research on this shit at all and you need to do a lot more research.....id say stay away from aas and go with diet/workout plan once you got that mastered then bring in aas as help not a miracle drug

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    right so for a start i need to come off for 7 weeks at least startin now...
    how do i go about workin my diet out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dson View Post
    right so for a start i need to come off for 7 weeks at least startin now...
    how do i go about workin my diet out?
    go into a diet forum and post what youre eating right now along with ur stats and ur goal, and u can also pm me a copy and ill look over it too

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