Tren only cycles?

**DieselPlayer** · 04-25-2008, 03:25 AM

Anyone had luck with tren only cycles? Is co-administration of test an absolute necessity with tren? Just curious?! Thx...

**jackdup04** · 04-25-2008, 05:22 AM

You can make gains with a tren only cycle...but without test the side effects would be bad..Personally i dont run anything w.o test....

**ChuckLee** · 04-25-2008, 05:27 AM

I think this is the time for me to start a thread about this by now...
You absolutely NEED a minimal HRT dose of test just to replace your natural physiological function heavily suppressed by the 19nor compound, otherwise your natty test will be lowered down and since it is the primer of all steroids , the tren won't give you any gains, becuse it will be like building a house without the foundations.
So yes, you need test, at least at 200-300mg/week.
Check this also:
High/Low Test and Tren doses
Posts #4 and #16

CL

**graeme87** · 04-25-2008, 06:28 AM

I wouldn't say you NEED 200-300mg of test each week. I am on hrt and I take 250mg ever 3 weeks so more like 83mg each week. But the point is always run at least a HRT dose of test!

**ChuckLee** · 04-25-2008, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by graeme87

I wouldn't say you NEED 200-300mg of test each week. I am on hrt and I take 250mg ever 3 weeks so more like 83mg each week.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO NATURAL TEST PRODUCTION ANYMORE.
It's a totally different case.
That amount of test is easily produced naturally in a week so a standard cycler without lack issues like yours would need more in conjunction with a 19nor.
It's a totally different fact.

CL

**Bulldog1115** · 04-25-2008, 06:44 AM

You obv dont value your dick!

**iagainsti** · 04-25-2008, 08:39 AM

Like Chucklee stated-tren being a 19nor will shut your shit down hard. Run test with it or dont run it.

**longhorn814** · 04-25-2008, 09:29 AM

dont know why anybody would want to run tren alone..sure its a great compound, but its soooooo much better when its stacked with test..they have great synergy

**High-roller** · 04-25-2008, 09:32 AM

I am running tren 250per week and test 500 per weeks with a d-bol kicker and this will be a good one .

try it out!

No test with tren no sex!

**kick6** · 04-25-2008, 09:56 AM

The first time I ran tren I ran it alone just to see how bad the sides were going to be. I only gained 10 lbs and was only able to keep 6. My weiner, strangely enough, still worked but it almost wasn't worth the cycle.

**graeme87** · 04-25-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO NATURAL TEST PRODUCTION ANYMORE.
It's a totally different case.
That amount of test is easily produced naturally in a week so a standard cycler without lack issues like yours would need more in conjunction with a 19nor.
It's a totally different fact.

CL

Regardless of being on HRT I am still taking in less than 200-300mg of test per week so for someone cycling that is not on HRT they could use less than 200-300mg of test.

**Deen54** · 04-25-2008, 12:11 PM

You are suppose to run test with tren . It's a must!

You will have no erection if you don't.

**canadian meat** · 04-25-2008, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

dont know why anybody would want to run tren alone..sure its a great compound, but its soooooo much better when its stacked with test..they have great synergy

Agree ^^^It takes only a minute to add a little test in with your tren shot this simple step will alleviate tons of unwanted sides I just dont get some people.

**millionairemurph** · 04-25-2008, 02:19 PM

you wont die without test if thats what you are asking. My last pct after a long harsh cycle left me feeling tired, lethargic, zero sex drive to the point i avoided all the broads i was seeing, lack of motivation, lack of focus, emotional and on and on. this is what would happen if you did tren with no test. men are supposed to have test in their bodies at all times. thats why pct sucks at first, bc you dont have proper test function yet.

**Kratos** · 04-25-2008, 02:47 PM

50mg prop eod is all you need to make lif a lot better. Did tren only, depressed and couldn't use penis.

**DieselPlayer** · 04-27-2008, 03:49 AM

Wow! Responses were highly informative...THANX BROS!

**ChuckLee** · 04-27-2008, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by DieselPlayer

Wow! Responses were highly informative...THANX BROS!

As always, when the right people answer.

CL

**New2Anabolic** · 04-27-2008, 08:25 AM

tren is a fantastic set of gear.
it will put you somewhere new, for first time users, and it by itself gives you decent gains.
BUT... you NEEEEEEED pct for Tren, otherwise you will be shut off for OH so long.
(because I was, and it was handicapping! No libido? Damn.)

**shifty_git** · 04-27-2008, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by New2Anabolic

tren is a fantastic set of gear.
it will put you somewhere new, for first time users, and it by itself gives you decent gains.
BUT... you NEEEEEEED pct for Tren, otherwise you will be shut off for OH so long.
(because I was, and it was handicapping! No libido? Damn.)

Sorry to hear that, but then good ya also honest about it and tell other guys here.

Personal experience is what its all about.

**DieselPlayer** · 04-29-2008, 10:37 PM

The consensus would suggest NO TEST---> NO TREN . And the appeals to the necessity of this combo were pretty damn persuasive! As such, 250mgs of test per week seems to be a good, solid dosage to use along with the tren. My question is, if on an EOD tren plan, is it better to split the test so that it can be administered along with each tren dose (i.e., EOD: tren AND test)? or will one co-administered dosage (a single 250mg test dose) suffice?

Also, while test is test...is there a better compliment for tren, i.e enanthate /cyp vs. sus? Feedback will great appreciated. Thanks, bros!

**juicy_brucy** · 04-30-2008, 12:25 AM

I ran a tren only cycle. Had great results. Great gains.
but running it with test... is unbelievable, trust me on this. Run your tren with test.
You won't regret it.

**juicy_brucy** · 04-30-2008, 12:25 AM

I like test e personally.

**juicy_brucy** · 04-30-2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by DieselPlayer

My question is, if on an EOD tren plan, is it better to split the test so that it can be administered along with each tren dose (i.e., EOD: tren AND test)? or will one co-administered dosage (a single 250mg test dose) suffice?

Tren A is EOD. if ya wanna mix in EOD test with it, do test prop.

PT · 04-30-2008, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by kick6

The first time I ran tren I ran it alone just to see how bad the sides were going to be. I only gained 10 lbs and was only able to keep 6. My weiner, strangely enough, still worked but it almost wasn't worth the cycle.

you ran tren alone just to see how bad the sides were? are you insane? i think im going to go shoot some heroin now just to see how bad it messes up my family and my body. bro, thats not a good reason to put a drug into your body? do a little more research before sticking a needle in yourself again.

**ChuckLee** · 04-30-2008, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by pietro75

you ran tren alone just to see how bad the sides were? are you insane? i think im going to go shoot some heroin now just to see how bad it messes up my family and my body. bro, thats not a good reason to put a drug into your body? do a little more research before sticking a needle in yourself again.

^^^^x2

**Raw Deal** · 04-30-2008, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

I think this is the time for me to start a thread about this by now...
You absolutely NEED a minimal HRT dose of test just to replace your natural physiological function heavily suppressed by the 19nor compound, otherwise your natty test will be lowered down and since it is the primer of all steroids , the tren won't give you any gains, becuse it will be like building a house without the foundations.
So yes, you need test, at least at 200-300mg/week.
Check this also:
High/Low Test and Tren doses
Posts #4 and #16

CL

Chuck didnt we just Have the same Thread last week, And the week before, And i think the week before That!!!!!!!!!!

**kick6** · 04-30-2008, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by pietro75

you ran tren alone just to see how bad the sides were? are you insane? i think im going to go shoot some heroin now just to see how bad it messes up my family and my body. bro, thats not a good reason to put a drug into your body? do a little more research before sticking a needle in yourself again.

It was by no means my first cycle. Previously I had used only long estered tests and orals. I don't sleep for shit to begin with so I wanted to see just how bad the tren alone was before I stacked it with test which definetly makes the sides WORSE.

YOU do the research, many people have had success with tren-only cycles. That being said, it didn't work well for me.

**KMG300** · 04-30-2008, 09:43 PM

I am confused what is post cycle therapy , and what would it be for tren -test cycle. Sorry to ask this, I kinda feel like a retard but what are you guys talking about. The thought of no natural test after a cycle, well that scares the shit out of me I like being able to use my dick and so does my girlfriend. So if you guys could fill me in I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

**fLgAtOr** · 04-30-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by KMG300

I am confused what is post cycle therapy, and what would it be for tren-test cycle. Sorry to ask this, I kinda feel like a retard but what are you guys talking about. The thought of no natural test after a cycle, well that scares the shit out of me I like being able to use my dick and so does my girlfriend. So if you guys could fill me in I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

You're not a retard by any means; you're just not looking hard enough. Scroll down and go to the little pull down menu called "Forum Jump". You will see a list of forums here. Right under the "Anabolic Steroids Q & A" one, there is one that says "educational threads". Try that out...