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    couldnt wait, got too anxious and shot with an 18g pin

    like the title says... after waiting for over a month to get the goods (i thought customs got ahold of it) i finally received my gear, only to realize i was out of 23g pins but i had quite a few extra 18g. i thought, well i can shoot with this now (test e, so only 2 shots a week) and then order some pins tomorrow so they will be here in a few days. it cant be THAT bad... as i was about to give it a try looking at the size of the needle freaked me out so i had 3 shots of vodka (yes no lie, im very needlephobic) and finally was able to do it.

    my question is does anyone have experience pinning with this large of a guage? it didnt hurt that bad pinning and injecting, but damn my ass hurts today! is this normal? i barely feel any pain the next day from 23g, but this feels like a giant bruise (yes sore asscheek).. no visible bruise, just dull pain from the inside, like i was just punched really hard yesterday...

    and please before you flame me, this is my second cycle and i am VERY aware that 18g is for drawing not injecting, but i was so anxious and giddy i just said "f*ck it, it cant be THAT bad..."

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    damn bro you MUST have been anxious! lol.. but yeah im pretty sure that pain is normal...
    i have it with my 25g so yeah..
    your alright

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    yeah i shot with an 18g a couple of time. suck it up, you'll be alright. the soreness is probably because you just started your cycle and your body isnt used to the juice yet. if there is a farm supply store near you, you could go grab a couple of pins from them.

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    Like jammin a pencil in ya. Rana knows about that.

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    ouch

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    WOW that takes balls sir.

    I stick with 25g. Little scar tissue and its so easy and painless

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    damn i should video tape the injection lol, its like bringing a little kid to the doctor (cringing, shaking, etc) shit was PAINFUL

    ya i always thought infections start becoming noticable immediately (i dont know HOW immediately though, a couple hours, a day.. i dunno). im not too worried about infection i just never experienced one so i wouldnt really know the signs to look for... and this is a bruising type of pain, no swelling that i know of, just a small lump in the injection area (typical stuff) remember giving people charely horse when you were younger? feels just like that (exept on teh left asscheek lolz)
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxiderm View Post
    like the title says... after waiting for over a month to get the goods (i thought customs got ahold of it) i finally received my gear, only to realize i was out of 23g pins but i had quite a few extra 18g. i thought, well i can shoot with this now (test e, so only 2 shots a week) and then order some pins tomorrow so they will be here in a few days. it cant be THAT bad... as i was about to give it a try looking at the size of the needle freaked me out so i had 3 shots of vodka (yes no lie, im very needlephobic) and finally was able to do it.

    my question is does anyone have experience pinning with this large of a guage? it didnt hurt that bad pinning and injecting, but damn my ass hurts today! is this normal? i barely feel any pain the next day from 23g, but this feels like a giant bruise (yes sore asscheek).. no visible bruise, just dull pain from the inside, like i was just punched really hard yesterday...

    and please before you flame me, this is my second cycle and i am VERY aware that 18g is for drawing not injecting, but i was so anxious and giddy i just said "f*ck it, it cant be THAT bad..."

    done that before.. you'll only do it once..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    done that before.. you'll only do it once..
    HAHAAA lmao

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    his story reminds me of when i went in for shoulder rehab, they told me they were going to give me a steroid injection of dromethazone to help the shoulder, then the PT pulls out a huge 14g needle and draws about 8mL into it

    i almost fainted looking at that thing, but it turns out that she uses the syringe to get the steroid out, then squirts it onto a pad and uses it's negative properties and an electronic negative current to push the steroid into the muscle with no direct injection

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    Ive done 18G several times. I even pushed a dull ass one into my delt. But do try to get some smaller ones.

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    i use 21g with no probs, smooth plunge

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    i got a 16g IV last week cause my buddy wanted to see if he could do it.

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    My leg starts shaking uncontrollably pre-shot, when I'm drawing the oil into the vial and sitting down...and I'm talking about a 25g x 1 in pin also...LOL, maybe I'm also slightly needlephobic...but then again, I don't go as far as the vodka shots.

    Peace all...

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    21 1/2 is my favorite.

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    biggest I've used is 22g, 18 must take a core sample of your ass. Overnight yourself some 25's.

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    I will never....I mean never.....be so anxious/desperate....to use an 18g

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    ballsy.

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    well since its bumped ill give you guys the rundown so far:

    first shot (right glute) hurt a little pinning and stayed sore for 3 days after

    second shot was in right quad. hurt a lot going in but was only sore the next day then was fine

    after that i ordered some 23g pins from G P Z

    third shot was yesterday in left quad and only stung a little and wasnt really sore at all after

    in conclusion: 18g pins are ok to shoot with. recommended? definately not. but just to let people know that havent pinned with an 18g and are somehow stuck with 18g needles like i was, you CAN use them, and they are NOT that bad. definately hurts, but i hate pain and im deathly afraid of needles (had to take shots of liquor to pin the first 2 injects lol) but all im saying is that 18g can be used. the difference is only one thing, they pinch a little harder and you feel it pinch twice (once through the skin and once through the muscle) and its really not that bad if you just man up for a second and not think about the pain. injecting doesnt feel any different, just the initial couple seconds of pinning. i cant comment much on scar tissue but from what i can tell its not really an issue. im only saying this from looking at my inject areas from a week ago. just sayin, if you HAVE to use em, it aint really that bad (and i used the same needle to draw AND inject)
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    i wont even poke my vials with an 18g, lol. 21-22g to draw and 25g to inject.

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    Jeez man u are either crazy or my hero. Iv got 19g for drawing out and they are like tooth pics. I can only imagine what the physiological barrier would be like to overcome using an 18g. Ive never used higher than 23g Tried using a 21g one night because I was out of 23g and 25g but I wussed out. I went to slowly and it just diddnt seem to want to go in. Im not the most proficient injector. If I was to try a 18g it would take more than a couple of shots of liquor I think......

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    i usually draw with a 20g and shoot with a 23 or 25. one time i forgot to switch pins it was like a harpoon in the quad. now i always double check

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    my entire first cycle was shot with an 18 gauge needle. i used to get those redi-jects sutstanons from mexico that came preloaded in a syringe with an 18g needle. of course it hurt a little but i didnt know any better until i used a 25g needle my next cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    my entire first cycle was shot with an 18 gauge needle. i used to get those redi-jects sutstanons from mexico that came preloaded in a syringe with an 18g needle. of course it hurt a little but i didnt know any better until i used a 25g needle my next cycle.
    Oh my god!!!

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    Hell, I wont even draw with an 18g.

    I dont want to be dodging little rubber stoppers when I'm drawing..

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    update for tonight:

    im about to shoot into my left glute (or thigh since its less pain, we will see) tonight and it will hopefully be my last shot with an 18g. my 23g pins should be here in 2 or 3 days, so hopefully i can save myself the pain.

    but hey, no pain no gainz. you only gotz one liver son!

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    done that back when i was stupid

    my cousin and i were all gitty and these needles we bought looked like fvckin horse needles.

    We were dumb as shit to say the least

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    yeahh i use 21g needles and i dont seem to have a problem. it was all the pharma had

    18g tho.... good for you boss ahaha

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    LOL I shot with a 18g one time and all of it came shooting straight back outa my shoulder like a water cannon

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    done it b4..Ull be fine

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    mother of god......that sounds hella painful...speaking of which i prolly need to order some more syringes soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    my entire first cycle was shot with an 18 gauge needle. i used to get those redi-jects sutstanons from mexico that came preloaded in a syringe with an 18g needle. of course it hurt a little but i didnt know any better until i used a 25g needle my next cycle.
    Ahhh, I miss those convenient Sustanon Redi-jects I got from Cancun...sooooo convenient to shoot in the bathroom at work. Had my pants down pretending I was taking a shit. Then I would leave the office and dispose of the pin in a public trash can outside.

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