A few questions on a cycle & Gyno?

[Newbie2008]

Hey, I am new to this site as you all can probably tell. I spent the last couple of nites trying to learn as much as I could from the posts on here.

Ive done 2 cycles, before mixture of sus, deca , cyp, anadrol (not altogether of course). I did it with a friend who I thought knew what he was doing, but apparently not.

We did not do much for PCT, aside from Nolvadex which was very minimal.

I have not done anything in 3-4 months now and am thinking of doing another cycle now.

First question, is it too late to do a PCT now or is there no point at this time? Biggest thing I am worried about is Gyno. I read C Bino's thread on Letro, should i do it by itself or incorporate it into a new cycle & hope that helps with the signs of gyno?


I am considering doing the following cycle:

clen
winni depo
anvar

for 16 weeks. I am considering using the Letro along with the cycle as C_Bino forum on letro says.

Should I not use any nolvadex during the cycle if I am using Letro?

And what should I use as a PCT for this cycle considering I am using Letro during the cycle? I know most ppl use Nolvadex & Clomid, but is that a bad idea with Letro?

If anyone could help with any of this Id greatly appreciate it & I did try to find the answers, just a little confusion around the Letro

Thanks!!

[ChuckLee]

Welcome

Yours is a very bad cycle. Consult the other threads, the noobs starter pack and the stickies before starting to hurt yourself.
What are your stats? Age?

[Newbie2008]

Ya ill check them out before I start anything
And I am 24, 220 pounds probably 14% body fat

Thanks

[ChuckLee]

Height?
How long have you been training?
What were your previous cycles more in depth?

I'm asking all this stuff in order to advice you a cycle the best manner.

CL

[Newbie2008]

I am 6 feet tall.
I have been working out for about 5 years, not very much in the last 4 months, trying to get back into it now. My main goal is to get lean, & as cut up as possible. I have fairly good size already.

Previous cycles were:
week 1: 1 ml sus/1ml deca + 3 pills anadrol Per day
week 2: 1 ml sus/1ml deca + 3 pills anadrol Per day
week 3: 1 ml sus/1ml deca + 3 pills anadrol Per day
week 4: 1 ml sus/1ml deca
week 5: 1 ml sus/1ml deca
week 6: 1 ml sus/1ml deca
week 7: 1 ml sus/1ml deca + 20 mg nolvadex per day
week 8: 1 ml sus/1ml deca + 20 mg nolvadex per day

And I did the same cycle but substituted Sus for Cyp the last time.

I am noticing signs of gyno's now, due to not doing any PCT

[ChuckLee]

I'd suggest to follow this guide before considering to start another cycle:
All you need to know about GYNO.

CL

[Newbie2008]

Thanks for the info man... I think I have it now:

Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

Day 6: 2.0mg Letro
Day 7: 1.5mg Letro
Day 8: 1.0mg Letro
Day 9: .50mg Letro***
Day 10: .25mg Letro
Day 11: .25mg Letro
Day 12: .25mg Letro
Day 13: .25mg Letro
Day 14: .25mg Letro

Start Cycle:

TBD


PCT:
Day 1- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva + .25mg Letro
Day 2-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

My only question now (if I got the above correct now, hopefully) is can I do a cycle of:
1. clen
2. winni depo
3. anvar

My main goal is to get lean & cut up. Does this work, or am I better off going with one of the beginners cycle Ive seen posted on here?

Thanks

[inky-e]

Welcome

Yours is a very bad cycle. Consult the other threads, the noobs starter pack and the stickies before starting to hurt yourself.
What are your stats? Age?

^^^^^^

[MasterShake]

Welcome

Yours is a very bad cycle. Consult the other threads, the noobs starter pack and the stickies before starting to hurt yourself.
What are your stats? Age?

^^^^^^^^^^^ x3

[Newbie2008]

Well I was starting off with the Letro to combat the Gyno from previous cycle. Maybe for the PCT I can remove the L-dex??
PCT:
Day 1- Clomid + 20mg Nolva + .25mg Letro
Day 2-30- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

Do I atleast have a good start & end there? Or do I need to completely scrap this and start all over?

[MasterShake]

Well I was starting off with the Letro to combat the Gyno from previous cycle. Maybe for the PCT I can remove the L-dex??
PCT:
Day 1- Clomid + 20mg Nolva + .25mg Letro
Day 2-30- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

Do I atleast have a good start & end there? Or do I need to completely scrap this and start all over?

That's all pre-cycle and post-cycle and thats fine, but you need to learn about AS cycles and come up with a better one than you have planned.

[Newbie2008]

Ok, thanks man. I wasnt sure If i was completely off on it all or just on the cycle. Ill read through & try to come up with a better cycle.

[james21]

that deca +nolva coulda dont it too buddy

[Newbie2008]

Ya, I jus read up on that too.. Hopefully the Letro can fix it