cycle of winstrol

[stephenstuv]

hello, i was wondering if anybody can help me. i've been lifting weights and doing cardio now for a year to try to get a toned look but cant seem to burn fat. i can lose weight alright but it is always muscle i burn. i was thinking of doing a 6 week cycle of winstrol, or a couple of cycles. would this get me any results? thanks in advance.

[shifty_git]

Whats ya age, stats etc?

winny isn't going to acheive ya goals.

[bigpianoman]

Winstrol doesn't burn fat. It used with other AAS to harden up muscles. So for winny to reach its full potentional you should be at a decent bodyfat% before using.

[stephenstuv]

Whats ya age, stats etc?

winny isn't going to acheive ya goals.

27,
14% body fat
185 pounds
never done steroids before, only looking for a bit of help. dont want anything harsh or too strong, dont want to be too big. cheers!
p.s. most of the fat is around my waist if that means anything

[stephenstuv]

Winstrol doesn't burn fat. It used with other AAS to harden up muscles. So for winny to reach its full potentional you should be at a decent bodyfat% before using.

anything you could recomend? something not too strong or harsh! cheers

[Phate]

anything you could recomend? something not too strong or harsh!

what's your diet like, post your macros, if you can't burn fat 99.99% of the time it's your diet or workout regimen

[shifty_git]

Diet, cardio, then possibly either an ECA stack or clen.

[shifty_git]

what's your diet like, post your macros, if you can't burn fat 99.99% of the time it's your diet or workout regimen

Thats spot on.

Take my advice as the 2nd stage after what phate said.. whats ya macros?

[MasterShake]

Besides, winny is HELL on your joints! Especially the shoulders!

[stephenstuv]

what's your diet like, post your macros, if you can't burn fat 99.99% of the time it's your diet or workout regimen

typical day- (1) 3 egg omlett (2egg whites) + 40g oats, (2) 1 tin tuna & tomato + 2 slices wholegrain bread with a 2 slices of ham, (3) 1 tin tuna & tomato + i tin spaghetti bolnese, (4) bowl of cereal, (5) wholemeal pasta with tomato sauce (homemade) + chicken. 2 scoops of whey protein after workout and 4-5 litres of water. i do also have about 6 beers or 2 bottles of wine on a saturday night. ( a lot less than i used to have before i started trainning!)thanks

[stephenstuv]

Diet, cardio, then possibly either an ECA stack or clen.

whats eca mate?

[hdd123]

hello, i was wondering if anybody can help me. i've been lifting weights and doing cardio now for a year to try to get a toned look but cant seem to burn fat. i can lose weight alright but it is always muscle i burn. i was thinking of doing a 6 week cycle of winstrol, or a couple of cycles. would this get me any results? thanks in advance.

Lift that weights another one year or more- if u are lifting weights for a year for the very first time in the life, u'd need some real basic, and more hardened muscles & body, before starting to pumping it up. But if your body's metabolism is slow, u'll not be able to burn fat or strenght your body anyway (even with thouse supplements:rather u can make it sick), so visiting good endocrinologue is golden mean in many cases, for example, low thyroid activity worses life quality a lot and it's one of the main reasons for bad metabolism, but there'd be also other reasons, what are difficult to check without doc...so my advice'd be to visit good DOC! When all the preparations've been done u can start torturing your body with roids...

[millionairemurph]

reduce your sodium intake, that always helps

[Phate]

typical day-
(1) 3 egg omlett (2egg whites) + 40g oats
(2) 1 tin tuna & tomato + 2 slices wholegrain bread with a 2 slices of ham,
(3) 1 tin tuna & tomato + i tin spaghetti bolnese,
(4) bowl of cereal,
(5) wholemeal pasta with tomato sauce (homemade) + chicken. 2 scoops of whey protein after workout and 4-5 litres of water. i do also have about 6 beers or 2 bottles of wine on a saturday night. ( a lot less than i used to have before i started trainning!)thanks

i'm not the expert in diet here but i do see a couple problems, the first and foremost being that you eat processed carbs at night, the bulk of your carbs should be in your first meal (maybe second), and post workout meal, other than that your last three meals shoudn't have any sugary or processed carbs

here's a good thread on lean dieting, read it and create a sample diet in the diet forum to get critiqued cause i promise given a few tweaks you'll be burning fat in no time

btw, ECA stands for Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin, is a weight-loss stack that works by stimulating your beta receptors the same as clen would

here are a few threads on clen and ECA to familiarize you with them

Clen
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=clen+faq

ECA
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...&highlight=ECA

hope this helps cause that ECA thread took me forever to dig up

[stephenstuv]

i'm not the expert in diet here but i do see a couple problems, the first and foremost being that you eat processed carbs at night, the bulk of your carbs should be in your first meal (maybe second), and post workout meal, other than that your last three meals shoudn't have any sugary or processed carbs

here's a good thread on lean dieting, read it and create a sample diet in the diet forum to get critiqued cause i promise given a few tweaks you'll be burning fat in no time

btw, ECA stands for Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin, is a weight-loss stack that works by stimulating your beta receptors the same as clen would

here are a few threads on clen and ECA to familiarize you with them

Clen
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=clen+faq

ECA
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...&highlight=ECA

hope this helps cause that ECA thread took me forever to dig up

thanks a lot mate, appriciate it

[stephenstuv]

Lift that weights another one year or more- if u are lifting weights for a year for the very first time in the life, u'd need some real basic, and more hardened muscles & body, before starting to pumping it up. But if your body's metabolism is slow, u'll not be able to burn fat or strenght your body anyway (even with thouse supplements:rather u can make it sick), so visiting good endocrinologue is golden mean in many cases, for example, low thyroid activity worses life quality a lot and it's one of the main reasons for bad metabolism, but there'd be also other reasons, what are difficult to check without doc...so my advice'd be to visit good DOC! When all the preparations've been done u can start torturing your body with roids...

i do have an overactive thyroid, i am taking medication for it. would it make a difference?

[whiskey15]

reduce your sodium intake, that always helps

Is it true that sodium makes the body retain water? If so is this good or bad for a person that is recovering from a winny cycle with sore joints?

[Phate]

Is it true that sodium makes the body retain water? If so is this good or bad for a person that is recovering from a winny cycle with sore joints?

don't hijack people's threads, your new so i'm not trying to flame you just saying, people get mad if you ask a question for yourself in there thread so start your own

anyway, i'll answer it to bump this thread up again, yes sodium causes you to retain water and water itself actually causes you to not retain water, that's probably confusing so i'll explain, while sodium causes you to retain water, drinking water while your bloated causes your body to excrete water to remove the excess and flushes the sodium out of your body, which in turn reduces the water retention

water retention won't really effect your joints all that much if your coming off a winny cycle, to help with the soreness you could go to a drug store and pick up some glucosamin and chondrotin but by the time they kick in the soreness will be fading

[stoney_creek]

will the winny be affective to make a better look, i am new and thot it was but poster up above said it wont help the user attain thier goals

[hdd123]

i do have an overactive thyroid, i am taking medication for it. would it make a difference?

Did u mean hyperthyroidism (when u rapidly loosing weight, have very often hear beats and your eyeballs are bulging, etc.), when the tsh blood levels are low, but anyway. Very curious, but I instead of you had my hypothyroidism to treated, when I was 17 (actually I had problems before, but didn't thought it was thyroid). I had decreased metabolism, quite bulged thyroid, sleepy and tired oftenn, oedema, fatigue and very high tsh in my blood, when t3 and t4 was normal. There was some kind of non- malignant tumour in the thyroid. It took almost half of year to normalize my life quality and tsh levels. Now I'm on 100mcg of levothyroxine (Berlin-Chemie) every morning. I've good metabolism, good strenght gains at gym, no tired moods and better life quality. Maybe in future there'd be some better medicions...but one I can say: everyone who have problems with the thyroid take their own medicine and there's no bad impact's on you if only it's used correct for your dissease. There's also no base to think, that u really have dessease- maybe just increased thyroid function what could be regulated by the time. My advice'd be to keep your tsh levels medium-good, so u have good metabolism and also not decreased muscle mass, because if thyroid functionates too fast it also can have an impact on ability to gain more muscle mass. For example my last tsh level check was 2.2- it's enough good for me (I had had also lower tsh, but that was too low).

[firmechicano831]

Here we go bro. Sometimes we all try to look for a short cut but we really can't do that if you want to achieve ur goal for a long term. Number one you need to work on ur diet. make some changes and stop drinking 6 beers or more on saturdays if you really want to get toned. Number two, start working more on ur cardio. Do cardio twice a day, even if you only do 30 min in the morning and 30 in the afternoon. You will start seeing results after 2-3 weeks. Its all work bro.

[hdd123]

I meaned if doc's au fait and has prescribed medicine to treat your health problems, the medicine due specially for your prob., it'll help to fight with it. If u've not graded in some medicine sphere and take something by yourself it's the game of luck.
U had overactive thyroid in your body. Everything metabolises faster- so u just can't feed your sistem, when it needs something again, as it has used all received component's and don't have new it'll use it's own so decrease in muscle mass is possible+ it'll earlyer or later be shut da ****ed down by itself. So yes, I'd say if doc gives u that medicine to normalize your thyroid function, the metabolism will not be so excessive and there'd be chance to muscles to get all the necessary component's for normal growth.

[stoney_creek]

i would get a better natural base first rather then jumpin the gun only one year in. u might not b ready for the commitment.

[stephenstuv]

Did u mean hyperthyroidism (when u rapidly loosing weight, have very often hear beats and your eyeballs are bulging, etc.), when the tsh blood levels are low, but anyway. Very curious, but I instead of you had my hypothyroidism to treated, when I was 17 (actually I had problems before, but didn't thought it was thyroid). I had decreased metabolism, quite bulged thyroid, sleepy and tired oftenn, oedema, fatigue and very high tsh in my blood, when t3 and t4 was normal. There was some kind of non- malignant tumour in the thyroid. It took almost half of year to normalize my life quality and tsh levels. Now I'm on 100mcg of levothyroxine (Berlin-Chemie) every morning. I've good metabolism, good strenght gains at gym, no tired moods and better life quality. Maybe in future there'd be some better medicions...but one I can say: everyone who have problems with the thyroid take their own medicine and there's no bad impact's on you if only it's used correct for your dissease. There's also no base to think, that u really have dessease- maybe just increased thyroid function what could be regulated by the time. My advice'd be to keep your tsh levels medium-good, so u have good metabolism and also not decreased muscle mass, because if thyroid functionates too fast it also can have an impact on ability to gain more muscle mass. For example my last tsh level check was 2.2- it's enough good for me (I had had also lower tsh, but that was too low).

yes mate, hyperthyroidism. im also taking 100mcg levothroxine and carbimazol. got last test done a few weeks ago and got no word back so i assume everything is ok. thanks.

[stephenstuv]

Here we go bro. Sometimes we all try to look for a short cut but we really can't do that if you want to achieve ur goal for a long term. Number one you need to work on ur diet. make some changes and stop drinking 6 beers or more on saturdays if you really want to get toned. Number two, start working more on ur cardio. Do cardio twice a day, even if you only do 30 min in the morning and 30 in the afternoon. You will start seeing results after 2-3 weeks. Its all work bro.

thanks mate.

[hdd123]

yes mate, hyperthyroidism. im also taking 100mcg levothroxine and carbimazol. got last test done a few weeks ago and got no word back so i assume everything is ok. thanks.

What man? why u takin levothyroxine: it's boosting your thyroid instead of slowing it a little bit? Carbimazol, yes it's for hyperthyroidism treatment. Hmm, if your doc prescribed...just haven't heard that hyperthyroidism patients r taking this. I've some form of hypothyroidism, so I've to take that levothyroxine.
Maybe u had enlarged thyroid gland- that the reason your doc might prescribe this.

[stephenstuv]

What man? why u takin levothyroxine: it's boosting your thyroid instead of slowing it a little bit? Carbimazol, yes it's for hyperthyroidism treatment. Hmm, if your doc prescribed...just haven't heard that hyperthyroidism patients r taking this. I've some form of hypothyroidism, so I've to take that levothyroxine.
Maybe u had enlarged thyroid gland- that the reason your doc might prescribe this.

the carbimazol shuts down my throid completely and the levothyroxine gives me the thyroid hormones i need

[hdd123]

the carbimazol shuts down my throid completely and the levothyroxine gives me the thyroid hormones i need

Ok, but why do u need to get it shutted comletely down...why not to just slow it a litle bit down?

[stephenstuv]

Ok, but why do u need to get it shutted comletely down...why not to just slow it a litle bit down?

i done done the same course about 2/3 years ago to give the tyhroid a brake for about 1 year/ 18 months, then stopped the medication to see if it would work on its own. but it went crazy again. so i just do as the doctor says, and now im back on them.