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[jAcKeD!!!!]

hey guys , im startin my cycle tm finally and puttin the pieces to the puzzle together for one last time .

ive been dieting for a month now and dropped from 200 to 186lbs and tryin to put some lean muscle on now and increase vascularity, with that being said heres stats- cycle.

5'10
186
8bf% (will be calcuting exact tm)

cycle-

week1-12testprop@50mgsED
week1-10tren@75mgsED
week7-12winny@50mgsED

now my question is i want to be taking clen with it , i see alot of posts about clen about 2weeks on 2weeks off werks best then i see 1 week on 1 week off works best so im all over the place here.

given my stats and goals im thinkin first 3 days looks like this

day1 60mcg
day2 80mcg
day3 100mcg ( and not going any higher for rest of the days)

which is better 2on 2off or 1on 1 off?
also will be doign eca on days off of clen.

sorry if this is all over the place and thanks in advance !

[Phate]

hey guys , im startin my cycle tm finally and puttin the pieces to the puzzle together for one last time .

ive been dieting for a month now and dropped from 200 to 186lbs and tryin to put some lean muscle on now and increase vascularity, with that being said heres stats- cycle.

5'10
186
8bf% (will be calcuting exact tm)

cycle-

week1-12testprop@50mgsED
week1-10tren@75mgsED
week7-12winny@50mgsED

now my question is i want to be taking clen with it , i see alot of posts about clen about 2weeks on 2weeks off werks best then i see 1 week on 1 week off works best so im all over the place here.

i've done two off and two on, but i perfer running for 8 weeks straight with the benedryl/keto method, Anthony Roberts posted a study on clen that showed no difference in results between two test groups during two weeks of clen use with one group performing clen+exercise and the other just using clen which would suggest a longer run of clen being optimal

given my stats and goals im thinkin first 3 days looks like this

day1 60mcg
day2 80mcg
day3 100mcg ( and not going any higher for rest of the days)

which is better 2on 2off or 1on 1 off?
also will be doign eca on days off of clen.

running ECA and clen together is an old myth and not a good idea. The reason behind this is that ephedrine stimulates the same beta receptors as clen but in addition ephedrine hits everything around them as well, so running them back to back never allows the beta's to upregulate which results in back results and damage to the receptors over a period of time
sorry if this is all over the place and thanks in advance !

hope that helps

[jAcKeD!!!!]

thanks phate, i going to bump this for more responses from others .

[Phate]

bump for mods/vets to help

[mx3]

hey guys , im startin my cycle tm finally and puttin the pieces to the puzzle together for one last time .

ive been dieting for a month now and dropped from 200 to 186lbs and tryin to put some lean muscle on now and increase vascularity, with that being said heres stats- cycle.

5'10
186
8bf% (will be calcuting exact tm)

cycle-

week1-12testprop@50mgsED
week1-10tren@75mgsED
week7-12winny@50mgsED

now my question is i want to be taking clen with it , i see alot of posts about clen about 2weeks on 2weeks off werks best then i see 1 week on 1 week off works best so im all over the place here.

given my stats and goals im thinkin first 3 days looks like this

day1 60mcg
day2 80mcg
day3 100mcg ( and not going any higher for rest of the days)

which is better 2on 2off or 1on 1 off?
also will be doign eca on days off of clen.

sorry if this is all over the place and thanks in advance !

Is this a cutting cycle or a lean bulk? If its a cutter I like the the cycle and dosages. If its a lean bulk mo Is to up the prop to 75-100mg ed. I have run clen 2on 2off, 1on 1off, and the benedryl method once every three wks for a wk. By far the benedryl method works the best IME. If your using research clen you might want to go up to 150mcg ed just cause ime research clen and albuterol is underdosed and I have used from multiple companies. i dont get a happy medium until 200mcg ed you kind of have to just judge based on the sides. Hope this helps.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

its a cutter / minimual lean bulk.( if that makes any sense) i think the doses are fine, just very clueless as to clen and albuterol. what is benedryl i have search it and found nothing. thanks for the help so far, going to bump it up for the mods/vets

[Amorphic]

i agree with phate. he summed it up well

[ChuckLee]

Clen works better when took everyday, there are a lot of threads about this and it looks that the best answer would be this. DO NOT TAKE IT ON/OFF. It's clueless.

CL

[Phate]

here a link to the benedryl method and albuterol

clen faq
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=clen+faq

albuterol
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nthony+roberts

these should help

[millionairemurph]

benadryl method worked for me... i just followed anthony roberts article

[Phate]

bump for more info for jacked